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Mystery craters in Siberia due to global warming
Mar 20th, 2015 at 11:18am
 
Subsoil temperatures in parts of Siberia rose by nearly 4 degrees. That is a huge rise.

http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/siberia-mystery-craters-methane-climate-c...

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Underground temperatures in parts of Siberia have risen by nearly four degrees in the past fifteen years. As the ground there—mostly permafrost—warms, it releases methane. The methane builds up until there’s an explosion, which leaves behind a hole. “The phenomenon is similar to the eruption of a volcano,” Bogoyavlensky said.

Whether or not they end in explosions, these methane releases are a serious concern. Methane is a greenhouse gas, and on a molecule-by-molecule basis it is a far more potent warming agent than carbon dioxide (although it doesn’t last as long in the atmosphere). If the permafrost is leaking methane because of rising temperatures, a positive-feedback loop could be taking effect: more methane leads to further warming, which leads to further thawing, and so on.

In Siberia, the enormous craters are rapidly filling with water. Soon, they’ll probably be lakes. Of course, by then, new craters may well have opened up, and with them new mysteries to investigate in a warming world.


Iceland is rising as its glaciers melt. If Iceland is rising is somewhere else falling? Some time ago it had been reported that sea level at New York was rising faster than in other parts of USA.

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But the holes in Siberia also point to another, stranger phenomenon. Global warming and geology turn out to be connected in unexpected ways. Consider, for example, earthquakes. Generally, earthquakes occur because of the movements of Earth’s tectonic plates; they tend to take place along plate boundaries. But recently Greenland has been experiencing an unusually large number of quakes. One widely discussed theory attributes this to the shrinking of the Greenland ice sheet. As the ice sheet melts, its weight declines, allowing the land underneath it to rise. The process, which is known as isostatic rebound, may well be responsible for the increase in seismic activity.

Iceland, too, is rising, and for similar reasons. As the country’s glaciers melt, the land is rebounding. A recent study showed that some parts of the country are gaining elevation at the astonishing rate of 1.4 inches a year. “What we’re observing is a climatically induced change in the earth’s surface,” Richard Bennett, one of the authors of the study and a geoscientist at the University of Arizona, told the Web site Live Science last month. In the case of Iceland, that change may lead to an increase in volcanic activity. As the land rises, the pressure on the rock beneath it changes. Lower pressure translates into a lower melting temperature, which could, in turn, translate into more (or at least more destructive) volcanic eruptions. The past five years have been packed with “interesting volcanic activity,” Sigrún Hreinsdóttir, Bennett’s fellow-researcher and a geophysicist at the University of Iceland, told the Washington Post. “You can’t make any statistics from those few data points, of course, but you do notice there might be a connection with the uplift,” And there’s a precedent: during the deglaciation that occurred at the end of the last ice age, some twelve thousand years ago, volcanic activity in Iceland is estimated to have increased by as much as a factor of thirty.
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Re: Mystery craters in Siberia due to global warming
Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 1:26pm
 
Strangely you forgot to include the final paragraph...let me..

"He said some may have formed dozens or hundreds of years ago, but went unnoticed in such remote regions."

As such the alarmist clap trap is simply idiotic ... can't blame CO2 from recent times if this phenomenon has been occurring for hundreds of years. Muppets will try however.
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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:23pm
 
Rider wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 1:26pm:
Strangely you forgot to include the final paragraph...let me..

"He said some may have formed dozens or hundreds of years ago, but went unnoticed in such remote regions."

As such the alarmist clap trap is simply idiotic ... can't blame CO2 from recent times if this phenomenon has been occurring for hundreds of years. Muppets will try however.


Could also have been excavated by alien miners from outer space using disintegrator beams and tractor beams.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 3:42pm
 
War Of The Worlds - Martian vehicle entry points.... watch them spaces, friend, for them big ass Martians on tripods leaping out at you.
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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 3:42pm:
War Of The Worlds - Martian vehicle entry points.... watch them spaces, friend, for them big ass Martians on tripods leaping out at you.


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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm
 
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.
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Reply #6 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?
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Reply #7 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:13pm
 
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?



You are aware that the UN only take pro man made global warming reports aren't you?, all others go in the bin and the scientists that write them are black listed, not that any global warming crank would have a problem with that.  Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:36pm
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?



You are aware that the UN only take pro man made global warming reports aren't you?, all others go in the bin and the scientists that write them are black listed, not that any global warming crank would have a problem with that.  Cheesy


You are absolutely right. And you were right to say smoking is harmless. The scientists got that wrong too. And leaded petrol. Lead is harmless. Stupid scientists.
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Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:28am
 
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?



You are aware that the UN only take pro man made global warming reports aren't you?, all others go in the bin and the scientists that write them are black listed, not that any global warming crank would have a problem with that.  Cheesy


You are absolutely right. And you were right to say smoking is harmless. The scientists got that wrong too. And leaded petrol. Lead is harmless. Stupid scientists.



When did I say smoking was harmless?, I think its dangerous but if a scientist wants to put out a report saying its harmless then he should be free to do so, I'm quite comfortable with most people being able to evaluate information for themselves ... unlike people like you that believes that you or someone that thinks exactly like you should decide what information the rest of us should be allowed to see.

Currently scientists that have a sceptical view on global warming are treated like pariahs, they should be given a voice, that is real science, science has been hijacked by politics yet to the peoples credit and despite the massive amounts of hysterical propaganda from the global warming cult most people now realise its a scam.

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Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:37am
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
Rider wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 1:26pm:
Strangely you forgot to include the final paragraph...let me..

"He said some may have formed dozens or hundreds of years ago, but went unnoticed in such remote regions."

As such the alarmist clap trap is simply idiotic ... can't blame CO2 from recent times if this phenomenon has been occurring for hundreds of years. Muppets will try however.


Could also have been excavated by alien miners from outer space using disintegrator beams and tractor beams.  Grin Grin Grin Grin


You prescribe to the Abbott theory ?
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Reply #11 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 10:34am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:37am:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
Rider wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 1:26pm:
Strangely you forgot to include the final paragraph...let me..

"He said some may have formed dozens or hundreds of years ago, but went unnoticed in such remote regions."

As such the alarmist clap trap is simply idiotic ... can't blame CO2 from recent times if this phenomenon has been occurring for hundreds of years. Muppets will try however.


Could also have been excavated by alien miners from outer space using disintegrator beams and tractor beams.  Grin Grin Grin Grin


You prescribe to the Abbott theory ?


It's liberal party policy.
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Reply #12 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 10:39am
 
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?


less than you would think given that we are coming up on 20 years of no temperature rises.  all the research and theories in the world never trump actual fact.
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Reply #13 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 10:45am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.

innocent finally climbed the walls and realised how boring crack was  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #14 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 10:47am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
Brendon wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Global warming hysteria is causing big empty holes in peoples heads where their brain used to be.


I blame the scientists who do all the years of research and present those detailed reports to the UN. Those bastards. NASA are among the worst. But basically all the universities and research centres that come up with their rubbish reports based on extensive studies and years of data and accumulated expertise. What would they know?



You are aware that the UN only take pro man made global warming reports aren't you?, all others go in the bin and the scientists that write them are black listed, not that any global warming crank would have a problem with that.  Cheesy

innocent has no idea of how the reports are put together  Smiley Smiley
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