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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40785 Gender:	Re: muslims murder more Reply #15 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:44am Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:52am: Sorry, what religion are we talking about here? I’m confused. islam is the death cult
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96880	Re: muslims murder more Reply #16 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 12:37pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:44am: Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:52am: Sorry, what religion are we talking about here? I’m confused. islam is the death cult Thanks, Sprint. A tad morbid, don’t you think?
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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: muslims murder more Reply #17 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 12:47pm polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? HA HA A muslim democracy now that is funny. I think you will find they are attacking them because they don't believe in their brand of idiocy.
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Reply #18 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists?

Your logic fails.

Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia:

Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty
FMT Reporters | March 18, 2015
Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert.
apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today.
The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah.
These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram.
According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman.
Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.”
However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelan...

Sharia, innit.

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Reply #19 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:53pm

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists?

Your logic fails.

Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia:

Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty
FMT Reporters | March 18, 2015
Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert.
apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today.
The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah.
These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram.
According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman.
Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.”
However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelan...

Sharia, innit.

Innit. Which part of cuddly Malaysia has enacted this proposed law, old boy?

I’m curious.

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Reply #20 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 4:15pm

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists?

Your logic fails.

Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia:

Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty
FMT Reporters | March 18, 2015
Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert.
apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today.
The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah.
These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram.
According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman.
Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.”
However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelan...

Sharia, innit.

It sounds like a thriving muslim democrazy to me .

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Reply #21 - Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm

Still in cuddly Malaysia:

KUALA LUMPUR - Kelantan may hire Muslim doctors to perform amputations under its Shariah Criminal Code (II) Enactment after a group signalled their willingness to “resign temporarily” from their posts to carry out the job.
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The Kelantan state assembly approved the Shariah Criminal Code (II) (1993) 2015 Enactment on March 19 with 31 votes from PAS lawmakers supported by 12 from Umno.

PAS now plans to put forward two private members’ bills in Parliament to enable Kelantan to enforce hudud ― one will seek approval for the state to legislate punishment for crimes under the Penal Code.

The other seeks to amend the Shariah Courts (Criminal) Jurisdiction Act 1965 to enable Islamic courts to mete out punishments like the death penalty for apostasy and amputation of limbs for theft.

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=486952:wh...

Move on, no Islam to see here.

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Reply #22 - Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:17pm

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists?

Your logic fails.

Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia:

Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty
FMT Reporters | March 18, 2015
Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert.
apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today.
The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah.
These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram.
According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman.
Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.”
However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelan...

Sharia, innit.

and if they repent, well, they are guilty

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Reply #23 - Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:22pm

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Still in cuddly Malaysia:

KUALA LUMPUR - Kelantan may hire Muslim doctors to perform amputations under its Shariah Criminal Code (II) Enactment after a group signalled their willingness to “resign temporarily” from their posts to carry out the job.
...
The Kelantan state assembly approved the Shariah Criminal Code (II) (1993) 2015 Enactment on March 19 with 31 votes from PAS lawmakers supported by 12 from Umno.

PAS now plans to put forward two private members’ bills in Parliament to enable Kelantan to enforce hudud ― one will seek approval for the state to legislate punishment for crimes under the Penal Code.

The other seeks to amend the Shariah Courts (Criminal) Jurisdiction Act 1965 to enable Islamic courts to mete out punishments like the death penalty for apostasy and amputation of limbs for theft.

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=486952:wh...

Move on, no Islam to see here.

Ah, those good old cuddly Malaysia proposals that never become laws because of that inconvenient thing called a constitution.

What do we say, old chap? Oh, that's right...

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Please note what I said: On what basis can we say that

Islam

is compatible with Western traditions of freedom and individual rights?

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