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Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:11pm
 
Is extinction of human life inevitable within several centuries?

Some of the changes that are already started have momentum and will require decades to susbside and stop if the causes of environmental degradation are removed.

There is a presumption that the sustainable population of the planet with environmental health is less than 3 billion. Population forecast for 2050 ranges from 9-11 billion. Currently 7+ billion.

Is it already too late?

http://rt.com/news/242441-earth-facing-human-extinction/

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A Swedish scientist claims in a new theory that humanity has exceeded four of the nine limits for keeping the planet hospitable to modern life, while another professor told RT Earth may be seeing an impending human-made extinction of various species.

Environmental science professor Johan Rockstrom, the executive director of the Stockholm Resilience Centre in Sweden, argues that there are nine “planetary boundaries” in a new paper published in Science – and human beings have already crossed four of them.

Those nine include carbon dioxide concentrations, maintaining biodiversity at 90 percent, the use of nitrogen and phosphorous, maintaining 75 percent of original forests, aerosol emissions, stratospheric ozone depletion, ocean acidification, fresh water use and the dumping of pollutants.

“The planet has been our best friend by buffering our actions and showing its resilience,” said Rockstrom. “But for the first time ever, we might shift the planet from friend to foe.”

Rockstrom’s planetary boundary theory was first conceived in 2007. His new paper reveals that because of climate stability, which began when the Ice Age ended 11,000 years ago, a planetary calm helped our ancestors to cultivate wheat, domesticate animals, and launch industrial and communications revolutions. But those advances have strained the stability of the planet, and Rockstrom says we have broken four boundaries: too much nitrogen has been added to ecosystems, too many forests have been cut down, the climate is changing too quickly and species are going extinct at too great a rate.

Speaking to RT’s Ben Swann, Professor of Ethics Bron Taylor from the University of Florida said that we have accelerated the extinction crisis through deforestation and ocean acidification, a development which is driving species to extinction.

“[Human] beings have increased, even from 1925, from 2 billion – which is considered to be a sustainable population for human beings, according to northern European consumption standards – to 7.2 billion at this point,” he said.
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Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:44pm
 
Humans must cut down on their breeding.

We should be trying for a world where there are less than 500 million people in 100 years.

I know it will never happen.
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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 11:44pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

Is extinction of human life inevitable within several centuries?




Several centuries?

That is optimistic, imo.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 11:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
Humans must cut down on their breeding.

We should be trying for a world where there are less than 500 million people in 100 years.

I know it will never happen.




'So certain are you.'

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm
 
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )

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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:37pm
 
The oceans are dying because of carbon dioxide absorption and huge pollution loads that are forming islands of flotsam.

The presence of jetsam is not so evident but there are probably huge jetsam mounds under the sea which have not yet been studied.

Sea floor dead zones are increasing and expanding as pollutants poison the sea at river water and storm water outfalls. Many municpalities still discharge raw sewage into the sea. How many people remember the term Bondi Cigars for turds floating off Sydney beaches.
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.
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Re: 4 of 9 limits of planet hospitability exceeded
Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.




But there must be a point at which we only damage our environment & it can't recover.

Chopping down every tree is one example.
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Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.




But there must be a point at which we only damage our environment & it can't recover.

Chopping down every tree is one example.



of course there is a breaking point, but we have never 'cut down every tree' or even gotten anywhere near it.
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Reply #11 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:43pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.


The greens have no problem with people using FREE sunlight energy although you have a problem with the idea that it is FREE don't you.
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #12 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 7:39pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.


The greens have no problem with people using FREE sunlight energy although you have a problem with the idea that it is FREE don't you.

Seeing that longy represents the foreign investor, that would be a big fat yes!
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Reply #13 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.




But there must be a point at which we only damage our environment & it can't recover.

Chopping down every tree is one example.



of course there is a breaking point, but we have never 'cut down every tree' or even gotten anywhere near it.

The concept of non-linearity means salinity etc...  Grin Grin

You don't have to cut down every tree to cause bad karma!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #14 - Mar 21st, 2015 at 7:47pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 12:21pm:
blah blah blah... end of the world.... blah blah blah

hear it all before and it was wrong then.




Dear Longy,
nice to have you back after such a long ban.
Be good this time.

What do you think is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of our planet?
( Some say 500 million people )



  bump


the term 'sustainable' is not defined. the the GREens, sustainable means not digging anything up, using energy or anything else that might make life easier.  Oddly, the predominantly gay greens, don't feel that being gay is NOT sustainable.

The term 'free-markets' is not defined either!

...when is longy going to set aside some of his precious time to answer that on behalf of the blue-blooded cracksmokers brigade?

Hey, longy: I know- maybe you should ask Daddy over prawns and crayfish and pretend he's not making stuff up to see how far you spread it to cheer his bored coin-counting ass up  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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