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Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:50am
 
First the spin. The Government will now claim they have essentially addressed the budget emergency, taking the situation "from out of control to manageable".

The Prime Minister offered up the Intergenerational Report as evidence of that saying: "The document shows that we have halved Labor's debt and deficit going forward. Debt as a percentage of GDP which would have been 120 per cent under the policies of the former government is about 60 per cent under the policies of this government."

So the Government plans to ignore the raw figures that will in the near term at least show bigger deficits than they inherited; and they'll argue instead that they have done better than Labor would have done had they got re-elected and did nothing further to address the deficit.

That's a somewhat hypothetical argument but nevertheless the glass half full analysis that he prefers.

More to the point though is the declaration - and that's what it was - that the heavy lifting is over, at least until after the next election. That will have an enormous impact on how the Government is regarded by business and economists.

The direct question was put to the Prime Minister: "What's your response to people who may fear that that means you're easing up and resting on your laurels rather than doing more on structural reform?"

Good question.

The answer: "Well this budget certainly will be much less exciting than last year's budget because the task this year is at least 50 per cent reduced from the task last year. So inevitably it will be a much less exhilarating budget for those who are budget devotees and structural reform enthusiasts."

That was his response to the "structural reform enthusiasts"; a breathtaking abandonment of both previous rhetoric and economic strategy; a virtual acceptance that they are "easing up" and "resting on their laurels", such as they are.

And then the coup de grace. To the question, what happened to the promised surplus? or, as the journalist put it, "that graph that you showed us ... isn't it true that when you look at it, at no stage do you reach a surplus in the next 40 years?"

Abbott: "We get very close to balance."

Very close - in 2019-20 - and then, according to the document and the enclosed graph that he referred to, it all goes south again, in a big hurry.

And even that outcome is based on the assumptions that growth will average out at about 2.8 per cent; that Australia will have favourable terms of trade; and that the Government will keep bracket creep for at least another five years.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-20/cassidy-abbotts-breathtaking-shift-in-econ...
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 8:03am
 
Does this mean the 'strong' government is now a weak government.
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 8:06am
 
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 8:03am:
Does this mean the 'strong' government is now a weak government.
No it means that the weak govt is still a weak govt.
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 8:08am
 
Abbott is desperate to be re-elected. Not going to happen. He has also used up all the political capital he ever had, witness the Senate outstaring Pratt Pyne to remove the science funding from the Uni deregulation Bill, then voting down the deregulation Bill.

If Abbott now wants to play Mr Nice Guy the deficit will explode. Or is he going to play crafty? We know he is not for genuine reform that might see the top 1% losing $billions in tax rorts like super.

Turncoat has thrown him a live grenade in the form of media deregulation, recommending  changes that will suit Chan 7 & 9, but do not give FoxTel the right for more exclusive coverage of major sports events. That has enraged Rupe’ so stay tuned for more exiting episodes of Monkey goes to The Lodge.
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm
 
We all knew that the "Budget emergency" was nothing more than political spin and hyperbole. Now we have proof that Abbott was lying........ again.
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:14pm
 
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:50am:
The document shows that we have halved Labor's debt and deficit going forward.


when did that happen? our debt has increased since the libs took over, not decreased   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:18pm
 
That's 'hypothetical' Labor debt halved.

That's recorded so far right on the page, it aint even on the ledger.
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:19pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:50am:
The document shows that we have halved Labor's debt and deficit going forward.


when did that happen? our debt has increased since the libs took over, not decreased   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Yes.. yes.. but only if you quibble over the core spending and the non-core spending.... some of you are just never happy...   Wink  ..... and over-focus on the fine details instead of looking at the broad sweep....

In the overall picture of what might have been had not  the budget emergency been handled so well with virtually nothing done.. the whole thing would have potentially blown out to an astronomical level... you have to look at what was achieved rather than what was not achieved and realise that when nothing concrete is done and the figures actually go up - that is one enormous saving right there!.....

Think how much WORSE it could have been...


the above written by Tony's speech writers, and has no political affiliation whatsoever beyond the Liberal Party....
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:23pm
 
That reminds me - how is it that if I bank money and cop some interest, I have to declare that interest as income even though I already paid tax on that money to put in the bank... but if I put it into super over and above what is considered a livable amount, and cop payment for that (even though I've paid a lower rate of tax for that money).... I don't have to declare it as income?
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:50am:
The document shows that we have halved Labor's debt and deficit going forward.


when did that happen? our debt has increased since the libs took over, not decreased   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It is just that he has theorised that the Labor debt would have increased by more or theoretically the increase in Liberal debt is less.

As expected there is nothing to support this assessment.

They are trying to rest on laurels that they don't have.
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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:32pm
 
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 8:03am:
Does this mean the 'strong' government is now a weak government.



My guess is that Tony's good government has been deferred indefinitely.
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
____ wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:50am:
The document shows that we have halved Labor's debt and deficit going forward.


when did that happen? our debt has increased since the libs took over, not decreased   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You missed the 'magic pudding.'  This is a classic recent LNP position, one I first heard when Howard was around.  "Interest rates will always be lower with us than with Labor."  Impossible to prove either way, as it does not matter who governs...the statement still can be made.

The current magic pudding is the IGR....clearly a politicised document presented to us as non-partisan when the truth is the exact opposite.

In this debate the IGR opined that under Labor in so many years, Government debt could be 160% of GDP.  That gives Abbott the weazel room around the fact that he knows under his plans Government debt will be about 60% of GDP a massive rise on what it is now.  But he says....

"See, the IGR proves that Government debt to GDP will always be lower under us than under Labor.....aren't we good?"

Does he really reckon those who follow this stuff will accept that it is no longer any real concern that the ratio will get close to 60% which is not an emergency but when it was at about 27% under Labor in 2013, it was?

Bloody horseshit!
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