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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #45 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:59pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

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I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

What is uniquely Islamic about any of these, spineless squishy bedwetter.

Please explain.

Moving the goal posts again, Soren? You know, someone who was more mature than you would just admit defeat... Roll Eyes

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

How are any of these done Islamically as opposed to atheist, Christian or Jewish ways?

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Why did you add the word "uniquely" into your question, Soren?

Brian answered your original question, why not just accept that as his answer? Not only moving the goal post but changing the question, post ipso facto! Naughty Soren! Grin

THese are not Muslim characteristics, these are civilities. You do not need Islam to exhibit or practice any of them - so they are not Islamic traits.

My question was not answered, merely sidestepped in his customary idiotic way.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #46 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:03pm

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1646216_15607377_lz.jpg

I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

What is uniquely Islamic about any of these, spineless squishy bedwetter.

Please explain.

Moving the goal posts again, Soren? You know, someone who was more mature than you would just admit defeat... Roll Eyes

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

How are any of these done Islamically as opposed to atheist, Christian or Jewish ways?

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Why did you add the word "uniquely" into your question, Soren?

Brian answered your original question, why not just accept that as his answer? Not only moving the goal post but changing the question, post ipso facto! Naughty Soren! Grin

THese are not Muslim characteristics, these are civilities. You do not need Islam to exhibit or practice any of them - so they are not Islamic traits.

My question was not answered, merely sidestepped in his customary idiotic way.

I see an answer. Why not accept it? Too difficult? Grin

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #47 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:12pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1646216_15607377_lz.jpg

I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

What is uniquely Islamic about any of these, spineless squishy bedwetter.

Please explain.

Moving the goal posts again, Soren? You know, someone who was more mature than you would just admit defeat... Roll Eyes

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

How are any of these done Islamically as opposed to atheist, Christian or Jewish ways?

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Why did you add the word "uniquely" into your question, Soren?

Brian answered your original question, why not just accept that as his answer? Not only moving the goal post but changing the question, post ipso facto! Naughty Soren! Grin

THese are not Muslim characteristics, these are civilities. You do not need Islam to exhibit or practice any of them - so they are not Islamic traits.

My question was not answered, merely sidestepped in his customary idiotic way.

I see an answer. Why not accept it? Too difficult? Grin

No, it's not an answer, it's the avoidance of an answer.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #48 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:13pm

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

The 'vast majority' is more dangerous than the 'tiny minority'.

How about that.

“The better integrated, the higher the risk of radicalization.
Author: Dr. Marion van San, Senior Researcher at RISBO, an independent research institute, active in the field of learning and society that is affiliated with the Faculty of Social Sciences at Erasmus University Rotterdam. Since 2009 she has conducted ethnographic studies of families of radicalizing youths.
Since we know that many young people left Belgium, but also from other European countries, to join the armed conflict in Syria, a fierce debate has erupted. However, the debate as conducted in Belgium is permeated by a series of stereotypes, that are not consistent with what is known from international literature, and that block a proper analysis of the phenomenon.

That young people from Europe who leave for Syria are victims of a society that does not accept them, and does not offer them sufficient opportunities – a proposition that Rik Coolsaet has supported in an earlier edition of this newspaper – is however not supported by empirical evidence. Not only in literature on Islamic extremism, but also on terrorism in general and terrorism of any kind, the conclusion is always the same: it does not always concern people with low socioeconomic status. Neither does it always concern the marginalized and the frustrated, or people with a psychiatric disorder. The Belgian families from which the young people have left, are not all from the lower classes, and the young people who left are not all unskilled and frustrated. For the discrimination they are suggested to be victims of, there has usually been little empirical evidence.
http://10news.dk/?p=1134

Beware of the 'vast majority'.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #49 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:46pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1646216_15607377_lz.jpg

I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

#1 Respect for elders?

ISLAM - FAIL

Respect for private property?

ISLAM - FAIL

Respect for the individual?

ISLAM - FAIL

Respect for women?

ISLAM - FAIL

Respect for children?

ISLAM - FAIL

Yet all the evidence contradicts your Islamophobic viewpoint, Yadda. Roll Eyes

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #50 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:53pm

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1646216_15607377_lz.jpg

I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

What is uniquely Islamic about any of these, spineless squishy bedwetter.

Please explain.

Moving the goal posts again, Soren? You know, someone who was more mature than you would just admit defeat... Roll Eyes

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Who suggested that, Soren, except yourself? Roll Eyes

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Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

How are any of these done Islamically as opposed to atheist, Christian or Jewish ways?

Who suggested that, Soren, except yourself? Roll Eyes

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #51 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Are you cured of your Islamophobia? YES/NO

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1646216_15607377_lz.jpg

I'll accept that as a "no," then shall I, Soren? Roll Eyes

What aspects of Islam do YOU like, Brain?

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

Just a few, Soren, just a few... Roll Eyes

What is uniquely Islamic about any of these, spineless squishy bedwetter.

Please explain.

Moving the goal posts again, Soren? You know, someone who was more mature than you would just admit defeat... Roll Eyes

Eating and sleeping are done by Islam so now they are Islamic positives?

Who suggested that, Soren, except yourself? Roll Eyes

Quote:

Respect for elders?
Respect for private property?
Respect for the individual?
Respect for women?
Respect for children?

How are any of these done Islamically as opposed to atheist, Christian or Jewish ways?

Who suggested that, Soren, except yourself? Roll Eyes

You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41954	Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West Reply #52 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm: You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them. Why can't I, Soren? You seem to be assuming that Islam doesn't emphasis these aspects of their religion?
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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #53 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 8:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them.

Why can't I, Soren? You seem to be assuming that Islam doesn't emphasis these aspects of their religion? Grin

Doesn't emphasis??

Yeah, Islam doesn't 'emphasis' these aspects.

It emphasises the inferiority of women, though.

It has f Vck all respect for the individual if he is not a Muslim of the correct doctrine.

Go on, yawn, ya stupid, fatuous bedwetting pr!ck.

Go on.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #54 - Apr 6^th, 2015 at 12:03am

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them.

Why can't I, Soren? You seem to be assuming that Islam doesn't emphasise these aspects of their religion? Grin

Doesn't emphasis??

Yeah, Islam doesn't 'emphasis' these aspects.

It emphasises the inferiority of women, though.

It has f Vck all respect for the individual if he is not a Muslim of the correct doctrine.

Go on, yawn, ya stupid, fatuous bedwetting pr!ck.

Go on.

Sorry, Soren, your views are coloured by your Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #55 - Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:43am

Moderate Islam is a fiction created by Western Islamophiles and apologists. It is an interpretation of the fact that not all Muslim go off their heads at once. But they still harbour and support their martyr/murders and always qualify any nuanced condemnation of an atrocity committed in the name of Mohammed and the Koran.

Watch them after the next one and be honest with yourself. They have a studied piousness, but are in fact morally bankrupt.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #56 - Apr 6^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 12:03am:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them.

Why can't I, Soren? You seem to be assuming that Islam doesn't emphasise these aspects of their religion? Grin

Doesn't emphasis??

Yeah, Islam doesn't 'emphasis' these aspects.

It emphasises the inferiority of women, though.

It has f Vck all respect for the individual if he is not a Muslim of the correct doctrine.

Go on, yawn, ya stupid, fatuous bedwetting pr!ck.

Go on.

Sorry, Soren, your views are coloured by your Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

That’ll show him.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #58 - Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:53pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 12:03am:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

You can't say that you like these aspects of Islam when these are aspects of every culture and there is nothing Islamic about them.

Why can't I, Soren? You seem to be assuming that Islam doesn't emphasise these aspects of their religion? Grin

Doesn't emphasis??

Yeah, Islam doesn't 'emphasis' these aspects.

It emphasises the inferiority of women, though.

It has f Vck all respect for the individual if he is not a Muslim of the correct doctrine.

Go on, yawn, ya stupid, fatuous bedwetting pr!ck.

Go on.

Sorry, Soren, your views are coloured by your Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

That’ll show him.

I thought so.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #59 - Apr 7^th, 2015 at 8:21am

"Two things are now destroying our great country; rampant socialism and Muslim immigration and those who favour socialism over democracy also favour Muslim immigration to assist in the destabilisation of our democracy.

"The true Muslim can never integrate into our society as Islam, or the religion of peace as they call it, demands that you have one allegiance and that that allegiance can only be to Islam.

The true Muslim believer can only strive for one thing and that is total world dominance by Islam for that is what is written in their Qu'ran or Holy book.

"Wishing to protect this country from people who do not have our democracy at heart and wish to dominate the planet with their way of life is not being racist. Using the racist tag against those who oppose Islamic migration to this country is just a methodology employed by the socialists to lure dumb uneducated dickheads to their cause.

"What really gets up my nose is the fact that the socialist nice people completely ignore so many historical facts in regard to Islam, most alarmingly the serious trouble large scale Islamic immigration has caused in many large European cities in Holland, Denmark, France, Belgium, Germany, Sweden and England.

"One thing more for the dickheads... it's a pretty poor indictment on the "Muslim religion of peace", when cities like Sydney have to set up a specialist "Middle-Eastern Crime Squad" just to combat violent Middle-Eastern criminals, and I just wonder how many of those people waving racist placards on Saturday have ever been to places like Punchbowl and Lakemba to see what they're really like".

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