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Reply #75 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:06pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 2:33pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 1:21pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 11:31am:

Soren wrote on Apr 7^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Are you claiming that Islam doesn't emphasize these aspects of human behavior and reinforce them with it's teachings Soren?

Every culture emphasises these aspects of human behaviour and reinforces them with its teachings.

So you do not need Islam as it brings nothing new or special.

Except to the people who feel it's special emphasize is important to them? Nah, that can't be right, now can it, Soren? Cheesy

"Special emphasis"? How special? What makes it special?
A load of Hot Air.

Really? Have you spoken to many Muslims about this issue, personally Soren? What were their names? Cheesy

Mohammad Shafia. 'Special respect' for wife, daughters.
Skaf brothers - 'special respect' for women and for cultural diversity.
"We have kidnappings, abductions, assaults, sexual offences. Anything that you can imagine could happen, does happen, in the name of honour," says Nazir Afzal, Crown Prosecutor for the north-west of England. "Special respect".
Hizb ul Tahrir Australia - “Honour killings are morally justified”.

And so on, ad nauseam.

Yes, old boy, but you're forgetting Muslim drunks, ursurers, adulterers, blasphemers, apostates, and a host of other undesirables. Some are even uncircumcised, shave on Fridays and let their women get around like uncovered meat.

I blame Islam.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #77 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:10pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Now now, the old boy's new to our culture. He can't help the way he is.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35465 Gender:	Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West Reply #78 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:14pm Hiya Gandalf ... i'm going to have to pop out sometimes
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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #79 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:16pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Now now, the old boy's new to our culture. He can't help the way he is.

He is? I would have had him pegged as Cronulla rioter with a Southern Cross tattoo and a wife beater on.

Shows what i know.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #80 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:47pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Islamic sharia law is nationwide or province-wide system of governance where a lot of our 'refugees' and immigrants come from: Iran, Afghanistan, Pakiland, Bangladesh, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #81 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Islamic sharia law is nationwide or province-wide system of governance where a lot of our 'refugees' and immigrants come from: Iran, Afghanistan, Pakiland, Bangladesh, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria.

Yes, and they are trying to get away.

Please, think?

But what does that have to do with comparing the Cronulla Riots to Stalinism? Or are you following your own unique bouncing ball?

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #82 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 8:18pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Islamic sharia law is nationwide or province-wide system of governance where a lot of our 'refugees' and immigrants come from: Iran, Afghanistan, Pakiland, Bangladesh, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria.

Yes, and they are trying to get away.

Please, think?

But what does that have to do with comparing the Cronulla Riots to Stalinism? Or are you following your own unique bouncing ball?

Why ARE they trying to get away?? Why don't they change it? They are supposed to be the 'vast majority'.

No longer?

Why is the 'vast majority' of Muslims always, ALWAYS running away and conceding the field to the 'tiny minority'??

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #83 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 8:57pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Now now, the old boy's new to our culture. He can't help the way he is.

He is? I would have had him pegged as Cronulla rioter with a Southern Cross tattoo and a wife beater on.

Good God, no. The old boy likes Danish. He doesn't get on too well with the Southern Cross crowd.

But give him a few stool-eating bin straighteners to moan to, and you won't be able to tell them apart. The old boy, you see, is an ardent believer in the doctrine of assimilation.

As long as he gets to assimilate with the 0.02% of the population he feels similar to.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #84 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:01pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

As for moderate Muslims being afraid of them, they are the most active voices of dissent and the primary fighters on the ground against fanaticism.

Utter, utter bollocks.

You MUST be a Muslim to say such certifiable nonsense and hope to get away with it.

No outspoken Muslim newspaper office has been shot up in Paris, no outspoken Muslim moderate has been beheaded on the streets of London, no moderate Muslim cafe has been beseiged in Sydney.

You guys are deluded to an extraordinary degree. Unmoored.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West Reply #85 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:04pm mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:54pm: Islam has been in Australia since the 1800's, coexisting just fine... as it will continue to do. Raving, hateful loonies are a problem. On ALL sides. But now that their number is growing, the problems begin. Just like everywhere else. Islam=Submission.
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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #86 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:08pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

You are missing the point. MOST Muslims do not adhere to violence.

This is evident by the fact that there are over a billion of them and most live perfectly peacefully.

And they are losing control everywhere - Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Sudan, Yemen, sorry, Semen, Labia, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Turkey, Saudi, Somalia, Kenya, Nigeria.

The 'vast majority' is losing ground everywhere. Either because they are opportunistic cowards or because they are not really 'vast majority'.

Thanks for highlighting it.

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Reply #87 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:10pm

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

What the hell is wrong with a person who can't identify the difference between an ordinary Muslim and a raving fanatic?

It's hard to tell them apart when they believe n the same thing.

One is a coward about his beliefs, the other is very motivated by them. Same beliefs.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #88 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:23pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

As i am not, as an Australian, represented by the participants of the Cronulla riots.

This is a typical and very lazy and very stupid argument.

It's like saying ' Not every German was a Nazi so let's not criticise German National Socialism' or not every Russian was a member of the Communist Party so let's not criticise Stalinism or communist ideology.

Did you thinjk that through?

How can you compare nationwide systems of governance with a few neanderthilic yobbos acting out of pig-ignorance and utter stupidity?

Most Australians were embarrassed by them to the point of mortification.

Islamic sharia law is nationwide or province-wide system of governance where a lot of our 'refugees' and immigrants come from: Iran, Afghanistan, Pakiland, Bangladesh, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria.

Yes, and they are trying to get away.

Please, think?

But what does that have to do with comparing the Cronulla Riots to Stalinism? Or are you following your own unique bouncing ball?

Why ARE they trying to get away?? Why don't they change it? They are supposed to be the 'vast majority'.

No longer?

Why is the 'vast majority' of Muslims always, ALWAYS running away and conceding the field to the 'tiny minority'??

I dunooooo ... Kalashnikovs maybe? Rocket launchers?

Seriously, can't you come up with any of these answers for yourself? They don't take a great deal of thought.

How are any oppressed masses oppressed?

And what of the Islamic countries NOT at war? They exist y'know. Grooving along perfectly happily.

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Re: The 'moderate Muslim' 5th column in the West
Reply #89 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:26pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 9:01pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

As for moderate Muslims being afraid of them, they are the most active voices of dissent and the primary fighters on the ground against fanaticism.

Utter, utter bollocks.

You MUST be a Muslim to say such certifiable nonsense and hope to get away with it.

No outspoken Muslim newspaper office has been shot up in Paris, no outspoken Muslim moderate has been beheaded on the streets of London, no moderate Muslim cafe has been beseiged in Sydney.

You guys are deluded to an extraordinary degree. Unmoored.

Not to up to date with events in the Middle East are you?

Attacks against moderate Muslims run rampant. Attacks against hospitals, schools, places of business ... daily.

You know who is primarily fighting ISIS don't you? Muslims. True. Check it out.

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