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Reply #15 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 4:27pm
 
Of course getting around in public covered up head to toe and looking stupid is going to turn heads. It's weird.
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Reply #16 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 6:10pm
 
Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 4:27pm:
Of course getting around in public covered up head to toe and looking stupid is going to turn heads. It's weird.


When I see them I don't know where to look. It's like passing someone with an obvious disability.
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Reply #17 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 6:16pm
 
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Reply #19 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:18pm
 
Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
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Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...


Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know.  Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)

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Reply #20 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:57pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:18pm:
Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
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Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...


Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know.  Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)


I think he means most of the MSM, Soren.  So, is it his language (which is correct BTW) or the mere fact he's pointing out something you agree with that is upsetting you?   Roll Eyes
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Re: 'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment
Reply #21 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 3:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4th, 2015 at 3:31pm:
'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment.  Interesting choice of words.


I think it's stupid,what do you expect from apologists

Meanwhile women in Iran are taking photos and videos of themselves in public not wearing the mandatory hijab.

Try searching google for Iran women remove hijab bwian. Roll Eyes



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Reply #22 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:57pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:18pm:
Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
...
Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...


Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know.  Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)


I think he means most of the MSM, Soren.  So, is it his language (which is correct BTW) or the mere fact he's pointing out something you agree with that is upsetting you?   Roll Eyes



You can't even laugh at Koran readings in a church.  And isn't Fairfax and the ABC MSM??

I would be grateful if you could show me a single instance of ''vitriolic' MSM, let alone a solid pattern. For Muslims, any criticism, any sign of unwillingness to submit is 'vitriolic'.



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Reply #23 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:54pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 4th, 2015 at 4:30pm:
Its basically part of the job description for female porn actors to constantly repeat the mantra that their performances are "empowering" for them (or something equivalent).




Pretty much the same for mussie women and their oppression, wouldn't you say?

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Reply #24 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:03pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 6:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:57pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 2:18pm:
Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
...
Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...


Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know.  Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)


I think he means most of the MSM, Soren.  So, is it his language (which is correct BTW) or the mere fact he's pointing out something you agree with that is upsetting you?   Roll Eyes



You can't even laugh at Koran readings in a church.  And isn't Fairfax and the ABC MSM??

I would be grateful if you could show me a single instance of ''vitriolic' MSM, let alone a solid pattern. For Muslims, any criticism, any sign of unwillingness to submit is 'vitriolic'.


Soren, is Alan Jones part of the MSM?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:07pm
 
lol.  One man vs every media outlet, and I wouldn't even know if he is "anti-muslim" nor would 90% of people under age 65.

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Reply #26 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 11:37am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4th, 2015 at 3:31pm:
'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment.  Interesting choice of words.


I think it's stupid,what do you expect from apologists

Meanwhile women in Iran are taking photos and videos of themselves in public not wearing the mandatory hijab.

Try searching google for Iran women remove hijab bwian. Roll Eyes


I had a look Baron.  Interesting how all the photos are of young, virile, women.  None are older or younger.  I wonder why the Western media would filter them that way?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #27 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 11:38am
 
... wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:07pm:
lol.  One man vs every media outlet, and I wouldn't even know if he is "anti-muslim" nor would 90% of people under age 65.



Considering that Alan Jones stoked the fires of the Cronulla Riot, I think he's listened to quite a few Sydneysiders under 65.   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #28 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 12:30pm
 
I think his influence in that was vastly overstated.  People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.
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Reply #29 - Apr 13th, 2015 at 12:33pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Apr 13th, 2015 at 11:37am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4th, 2015 at 3:31pm:
'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment.  Interesting choice of words.


I think it's stupid,what do you expect from apologists

Meanwhile women in Iran are taking photos and videos of themselves in public not wearing the mandatory hijab.

Try searching google for Iran women remove hijab bwian. Roll Eyes


I had a look Baron.  Interesting how all the photos are of young, virile, women.  None are older or younger.  I wonder why the Western media would filter them that way?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


The hijab is supposed to cover the hair,do Iranian women show hair from under the hijab to protest this stupid religious law which you and brian support?

What are your thoughts on the Iranian morality police hb?
theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/jun/19/iran-morality-police-patrol
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