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Reply #30 - Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

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Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcasting and that the ACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

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Re: 'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment
Reply #31 - Apr 13^th, 2015 at 8:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 2:57pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 2:18pm:

Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
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Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...

Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know. Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)

I think he means most of the MSM, Soren. So, is it his language (which is correct BTW) or the mere fact he's pointing out something you agree with that is upsetting you? Roll Eyes

You can't even laugh at Koran readings in a church. And isn't Fairfax and the ABC MSM??

I would be grateful if you could show me a single instance of ''vitriolic' MSM, let alone a solid pattern. For Muslims, any criticism, any sign of unwillingness to submit is 'vitriolic'.

Soren, is Alan Jones part of the MSM? Roll Eyes

No.

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Re: 'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment
Reply #32 - Apr 13^th, 2015 at 10:28pm

Soren wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 2:57pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 2:18pm:

Young Australians are joining terror groups because their "blood is boiling" at domestic persecution and international atrocities committed by the West, a local Muslim leader has warned.

Keysar Trad, founder of the Islamic Friendship Association, told a university forum that his comments may be "dangerous" and "politically incorrect" but they were crucial to understanding why more than 200 Australians have taken up arms in Syria and Iraq.

In a scathing assessment of Australia's efforts to create a harmonious society, he said constant persecution, hypocritical Australian laws, vitriolic media and repeated invasions in the Middle East were pushing young Muslims "to the margins of society" and driving them to radicalisation.
...
Mr Trad said Australian Muslims were confronted with "systemic discrimination", opportunistic political commentary, unemployment and "duplicitous standards" in law enforcement.

"It is hard to argue with a young person who starts to cite all these issues, you can see the fire in their bellies, you in fact feel the same fire yourself," he said.

"All the above factors compound to different extents the sense of victimisation and alienation amongst youths in general and Muslim youths in particular."

In contrast, IS propaganda tells young people: "Join us and you will belong, you will not be discriminated against, you can go wild, let loose your facial hair and you become the law." he said.

Lydia Shelly, a lawyer and Muslim community member, said there was a poor understanding of radicalisation in Australia.

Her comments were echoed by Dr Jan Ali, a lecturer in Islam and Modernity at UWS, who told the forum that deradicalisation programs were pointless without a proper understanding of the phenomenon itself.

He said the federal government's efforts to fund community-led programs wouldn't solve the problem.

"There are some Muslims who are on the path of radicalisation who are from a middle class, well-to-do family," he said. "They don't need hand-outs."
http://www.smh.com.au/national/persecution-pushing-young-australian-muslims-to-t...

Muslims are now constantly persecuted in Australia, don't you know. Then there is the vitriolic media (who does he mean? SMH? ABC? Who??)

I think he means most of the MSM, Soren. So, is it his language (which is correct BTW) or the mere fact he's pointing out something you agree with that is upsetting you? Roll Eyes

You can't even laugh at Koran readings in a church. And isn't Fairfax and the ABC MSM??

I would be grateful if you could show me a single instance of ''vitriolic' MSM, let alone a solid pattern. For Muslims, any criticism, any sign of unwillingness to submit is 'vitriolic'.

Soren, is Alan Jones part of the MSM? Roll Eyes

No.

How, convenient... Roll Eyes

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Re: 'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment
Reply #33 - Apr 13^th, 2015 at 11:32pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

Quote:

Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that and that the the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcastingACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

As I said, people of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

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Reply #34 - Apr 14^th, 2015 at 11:52am

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

Quote:

Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that and that the the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcastingACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

As I said, people of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

And your evidence of that claim is? Grin

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Re: 'It was empowering': Emily's hijab experiment
Reply #35 - Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:14pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

Quote:

Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that and that the the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcastingACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

As I said, people of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

And your evidence of that claim is? Grin

The ads for retirement products, aged-care facilities, burglar alarms, pile ointment and Alan's regular call-in spot with Chef Mario, from the marvellous Lavenders resturant.

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Reply #36 - Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:17pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

Quote:

Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that and that the the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcastingACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

As I said, people of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

And your evidence of that claim is? Grin

The ads for retirement products, aged-care facilities, burglar alarms, pile ointment and Alan's regular call-in spot with Chef Mario, from the marvellous Lavenders resturant.

You mean the place he gets lunch from every day, for free?

Never been. Is it as good as he claims? Does it offer Kosher food? Grin

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Reply #37 - Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:26pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

I think his influence in that was vastly overstated. People of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

Seems the Islamophobes do... Grin

Quote:

Cronulla riots

In December 2005, in the lead-up to the Cronulla riots, Jones used his breakfast radio program to read out and discuss a widely circulated text message that called on people to "Come to Cronulla this weekend to take revenge... get down to North Cronulla to support the Leb and wog bashing day". Media commentator David Marr accused Jones of inciting racial tensions and implicitly encouraging violence and vigilantism by the manner of his responses to callers even while he was verbally disapproving of them taking the law into their own hands.[70]

On 10 April 2007, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that the broadcaster 2GB and Jones had broadcast material (specifically comments made by Jones between 5–9 December 2005) that was likely to encourage violence or brutality and to vilify people of Lebanese and Middle-Eastern backgrounds on the basis of ethnicity.[71][72][73] During his on-air rebuttal of the ACMA findings on 10 April 2007, Jones stated that by referring to his show as "Breakfast with Alan Jones", the ACMA had little credibility as his show was actually known as "The Alan Jones Show". However, the 2GB website prior to this broadcast clearly showed the Jones program as being "Breakfast with Alan Jones",[74] this was changed after the broadcast of Jones' rebuttal to be "Alan Jones Show".[75]

David Flint again defended Jones by appearing on Jones' morning show "to support his friend and to condemn the process that found him guilty. He told 2GB listeners that and that the the vigilante movement existed at Cronulla long before Jones began broadcastingACMA findings amounted to a classic case of shoot the messenger. He said the complaints process was flawed because, unlike the Press Council, Jones could not face or question his accusers".[76]

The NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal upheld a complaint of racial vilification against Jones and 2GB on 21 December 2009.[77][78] The tribunal said:

His comments about "Lebanese males in their vast numbers" hating Australia and raping, pillaging and plundering the country, about a "national security" crisis, and about the undermining of Australian culture by "vermin" were reckless hyperbole calculated to agitate and excite his audience without providing them with much in the way of solid information.

Jones appealed the decision, but in October 2012 the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal dismissed his appeal, and upheld his conviction for inciting hatred and for vilification of Muslims.[79]

Jones apologised on-air for his remarks on 6 December 2012. However, on 12 December the Tribunal ruled that this apology was "an inadequate statement of wrongdoing" and ordered him to make another on-air apology during the week of 17 December, this time prescribing the words he was to read:

Quote:

On 28 April 2005, on my breakfast program on Radio 2GB, I broadcast comments about Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. The comments were made following a Channel Nine television current affairs show about the conduct of young Lebanese men in Hickson Road at The Rocks. The Administrative Decisions Tribunal has found that my comments incited serious contempt of Lebanese males, including Lebanese Muslims. Those comments were in breach of the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Act. I apologise for making those comments, which I recognise were unlawful. I also apologise on behalf of Radio 2GB.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jones_%28radio_broadcaster%29#Other_cases]

As I said, people of working age just don't listen to talkback radio.

And your evidence of that claim is? Grin

The ads for retirement products, aged-care facilities, burglar alarms, pile ointment and Alan's regular call-in spot with Chef Mario, from the marvellous Lavenders resturant.

You mean the place he gets lunch from every day, for free?

Never been. Is it as good as he claims? Does it offer Kosher food? Grin

Oh, it's to die for. The Caesar salad can come without bacon if you wish.

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