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Reply #165 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 12:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 4:40pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 9:02am:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 8:04am:
Phobias are irrational, fears are not.



Which is why they're called Islamophobes.


How do you know their fears are irrational?



Hitherto, nobody has demonstrated (by way of credible, reliable evidence) any rationality behind the fears.



I am astonished that you don’t see any evidence that would support total opposition to the spread of Islam, and so you say those who do are irrational.

You dismiss more than twenty years of Muslim atrocities against any culture they come in contact with, but you must have noticed the problem is getting worse, not better. We have recently seen Muslims apprehended in Australia who were planning to go out into the street and stab pedestrians in the kidneys. About the only thing preventing larger Muslim events is not a moderate form of Islam, it is the strict control of firearms and explosives in this country. But when the Muslims do pull off a stunt in Australia your friends and associates may be lucky, let us hope so, but elsewhere mine have not been.

All these atrocities, from the Philippines through Indonesia Asia and Africa to Russia, Europe and America are justified by the words of the Prophet and they have increased with the availability of targets as Muslims infiltrate the non-Muslim world. The Koran is freely preached in Australia and from it the good Muslim is told to commit these atrocities because Mohamed’s concept of reality is the only one to be tolerated.

Perhaps they do not all get up the courage, but they harbour and spread their hatred through what they call a religion and they venerate their martyrs. This is what makes a Muslim according to the Koran.

I think your idea of fair-ness is misplaced. Your dismissal looks irrational to me, not the other way around. Muslims in Australia are no different to Muslims elsewhere. I do not know what your deeper reasoning is. It looks like wishful thinking; as if contact with Western tolerance will somehow rub off on them. Muslims see Western tolerance as cowardice; to them Allah and the Prophet are everything, while to secular Westerners life is everything.

You dismiss the Australians murdered and maimed in Bali, New York and Tunis as not being permissible evidence of the Muslim threat to peace. You seem to think they merely got in the way of a lone irrational person.

I support a multi-cultural Australia, but not one that extends its tolerance and protection to fanatics under a religious cloak of respectability. If that is an irrational point of view, continue to call me irrational, you almost have to justify yourself.   
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Re: The ABC of our Islamophobia...
Reply #166 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 1:13pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 12:52pm:
You dismiss the Australians murdered and maimed in Bali, New York and Tunis as not being permissible evidence of the Muslim threat to peace. You seem to think they merely got in the way of a lone irrational person.




No.

That's evidence of the terrorist threat to peace.

Those people 'got in the way of' quite a few crazy terrorists.

I certainly fear terrorists, by the way.  Every last one of them.

However, I don't fear all Muslims just on the chance that one of them (or even a hundred of them) might want to kill me.

Similarly, I don't fear all Irish people (ever heard of the IRA?).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

You, like many others, are falling for the "all terrorists are Muslims, therefore all Muslims are terrorists" line.  Both assumptions are incorrect.
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Reply #167 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 1:17pm
 
So, issuevoter you're actually showing your personal hatred for some Muslims and extending it to all Muslims?  Perfect case of Islamophobia!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #168 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 1:44pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 1:17pm:
So, issuevoter you're actually showing your personal hatred for some Muslims and extending it to all Muslims?  Perfect case of Islamophobia! 



Exactly.

There's no shortage of forum members who openly confess their Islamophobia.

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Reply #169 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 2:20pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 12:52pm:
Perhaps they do not all get up the courage, but they harbour and spread their hatred through what they call a religion ...



You're harbouring and spreading hatred too.

Why is it wrong for others, but OK for you?



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Reply #170 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 6:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 1:50pm:
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Hitherto, nobody has demonstrated (by way of credible, reliable evidence) any rationality behind the fears.


Guilty as charged. Just like you.




Nothing like me at all: I don't fear (or hate) them.






You should be worried  Greggy.

They hang poofs under Sharia law.
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Reply #171 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 7:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 6:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 1:50pm:
[quote author=freediver link=1428528085/149#149 date=1429067763]
Hitherto, nobody has demonstrated (by way of credible, reliable evidence) any rationality behind the fears.


Guilty as charged. Just like you.




Nothing like me at all: I don't fear (or hate) them.






You should be worried  Greggy.

They hang poofs under Sharia law.




You say I should be worried, and then in the next sentence give two examples of why I have absolutely no reason to worry.

What a strange man you are.
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Reply #172 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 9:45pm
 
Svengali wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 11:14am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 10:51am:
Soren wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2015 at 6:05pm:
On a daily basis (almost), they freely admit to their fear and hatred of all Muslims.


Suspicion, perhaps.

Fear and hatred of all Muslims? That's a fantasy only you, Brain and your circle fapping, unmoored buddies can conjure.

This sort of hyperbole is typical of the incontinent Left.




Do you fear and hate all Muslims, Sore End?



Soren wears a super-sized adult diaper and running shoes in case he encounters a muslim in the streets.

Whoa! and to think you have made it into adulthood with this sort of of kindergarten level imagination.

Or is it early onset dementia? Second childhood knocking at the door already?

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Reply #173 - May 9th, 2015 at 11:29am
 
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On a daily basis (almost), they freely admit to their fear and hatred of all Muslims.


As do you Greg. See? Now we are back at the beginning.

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There's no need for anyone to accuse them of anything - they openly admit to it.


Can you please quote the one from today? Or how about yesterday?

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Read their posts in the forum.


I do Greg. That's how I know you are no different to them.

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Right - completely different


Correct Gandalf. I do not argue that Greg is an Islamophobe because he is just like the other Islamophobes. Rather, I argue he is just like the other Islamophobes because he is an Islamophobe. Do you see the difference?

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You dismiss more than twenty years of Muslim atrocities against any culture they come in contact with


1400 years. The defining moments of Islam's establishment were attrocities against cultures that refused to bow down. Just ask Greg.

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There's no shortage of forum members who openly confess their Islamophobia.


Greg, for example. He confesses his fear and loathing every day, after his morning prayers. Just look at his posts on this forum.
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