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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The ABC of our Islamophobia... Reply #60 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 8:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 7:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 5:25pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 3:44pm: All religions are potentially evil. Islam just is. You should write bumper stickers. Perhaps he's Tone Rabbit's speech writer? Gawd, you are a hopeless idiot.
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Reply #61 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 8:57pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 1:29pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 1:08pm:

I celebrate different religions and cultures. I despise the failed philosophy of forcing them upon US.

Ditto.

Those Christians love to knock on the door and force their pamphlets into your hands though, don't they?

I haven't seen any Muslims doing that.

In fact, I have never had a Muslim mention religion to me at all. Not once.

Many of my Christian friends and family members, however, never shut up about it.

I've been asked several times, by Christians, to attend a church.

Not once have I been asked by a Muslim to attend a mosque.

Who has been forcing their religion onto you?

That's funny Gweggary ... comparing Mormons(no pamphlets) & Jehovahs Witnesses to Muslims.

Firstly both are polite & may want to talk to you ...Mormons may ask to come in & bless your house....

Never had a Jehovah force a pamphlet into my hand

& with both you can tell them you're not interested or to bugger off.

And they leave ........

hardly a comparison to the violence we see when Muslims for the slightest criticism or feigned insult.

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muslims behead Christian because they are christians.

you complain on the net of an invitation to a church.
I see why, you are gutless.

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Reply #62 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 10:22pm

Islamophobia, such a convenient concept for avoiding a serious problem in the Western World. Muslims are just like us, right? They believe in multiculturalism and freedom of speech, and they love other religions, just like Mohamed their prophet told them to.

Did anyone notice today that the Paks let the leader of the Mombai attacks go? Why not? They are all Muslim brothers.

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Reply #63 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 11:27pm

Soren wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 8:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 5:25pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

All religions are potentially evil. Islam just is.

You should write bumper stickers.

Perhaps he's Tone Rabbit's speech writer? Roll Eyes

Gawd, you are a hopeless idiot.

You do seem to enjoy launching straight in with your ad hominem debate, don't you, Soren? Roll Eyes

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Reply #64 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 11:30pm

issuevoter wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Islamophobia, such a convenient concept for avoiding a serious problem in the Western World. Muslims are just like us, right? They believe in multiculturalism and freedom of speech, and they love other religions, just like Mohamed their prophet told them to.

Did anyone notice today that the Paks let the leader of the Mombai attacks go? Why not? They are all Muslim brothers.

Actually, they let Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi out on bail, not "go" as you so distinctly put it.

Seems, on the surface of it, a fair decision. If you have any information that it is a bad decision, I am sure the Pakistani Ambassador would like to speak to you. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #65 - Apr 10^th, 2015 at 11:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 2:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Kat wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 7:31am:

It's a crying shame the ABC/SBS doesn't take legal action against carnts
like Bolt etc. for spreading this kind of defamatory filth and lies.

Are there any specific lies in the article?

"CRITICISE Islam and you’re an “Islamophobe”

Nonsense.

I criticise Islam, and I'm no Islamophobe.

Islamophobia is a prejudice against, hatred towards, or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims.

Informed criticism is perfectly fine; it doesn't mean that one hates Islam or is frightened of Muslims.

Really?? When have you ever 'criticised' Islam??

In this forum, at least a dozen times.

Do a search of "I think Islam is a particularly silly religion", and my name will come up.

And, just so there's no doubt in your mind, I'll say it again just for you, without the quotation marks:

Islam is a particularly silly religion, and I don't know why anyone would want to be a part of it.

There we go - In the future, pay attention.

Well, you must have gone back and deleted ALL the threads where you posted "I think Islam is a particularly silly religion", because, when I did a search, THIS seems to be the only thread where you've posted that...

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: The ABC of our Islamophobia... Reply #66 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 4:32am Thanks for the non-answer regarding capital punishment, Greggory. How do you feel about the punishment of death for apostasy which is espoused in the Koran?
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Reply #67 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:11am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 11:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 2:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Kat wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 7:31am:

It's a crying shame the ABC/SBS doesn't take legal action against carnts
like Bolt etc. for spreading this kind of defamatory filth and lies.

Are there any specific lies in the article?

"CRITICISE Islam and you’re an “Islamophobe”

Nonsense.

I criticise Islam, and I'm no Islamophobe.

Islamophobia is a prejudice against, hatred towards, or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims.

Informed criticism is perfectly fine; it doesn't mean that one hates Islam or is frightened of Muslims.

Really?? When have you ever 'criticised' Islam??

In this forum, at least a dozen times.

Do a search of "I think Islam is a particularly silly religion", and my name will come up.

And, just so there's no doubt in your mind, I'll say it again just for you, without the quotation marks:

Islam is a particularly silly religion, and I don't know why anyone would want to be a part of it.

There we go - In the future, pay attention.

Well, you must have gone back and deleted ALL the threads where you posted "I think Islam is a particularly silly religion", because, when I did a search, THIS seems to be the only thread where you've posted that...

I haven't deleted anything.

However, just for you: I think Islam is a particularly silly religion, and I don't know why anyone would want to be a part of it.

There we go - you have it on record twice now.

My position couldn't be any clearer.

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Reply #68 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:14am

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 4:32am:

Thanks for the non-answer regarding capital punishment, Greggory. How do you feel about the punishment of death for apostasy which is espoused in the Koran?

I didn't see your question.

However, this is quite simple to answer.

I don't support capital punishment under any circumstances, in any countries, for any crimes, or any other reason whatsoever.

Capiche?

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Reply #69 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:21am

My view on capital punishment doesn't come from what a book or person of faith tells me.

Mine comes from the fact I support people being removed from this earth who have committed crimes so heinous that they give up that right to further exist.

Namely first degree murder, child related offenses etc

Capital punishment supported by a strong and fair judicial system of appeal hearings and trial by jury.
Best card game in town for law and order.

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Reply #70 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:25am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

Capital punishment supported by a strong and fair judicial system of appeal hearings and trial by jury.
Best card game in town for law and order.

Incorrect.

It doesn't deter other criminals.

Check out all the states in the US that have capital punishment, and see how their law and order is going.

There's no place in civilised society for state-sanctioned premeditated killing as a form of punishment.

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Reply #71 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 7:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

Capital punishment supported by a strong and fair judicial system of appeal hearings and trial by jury.
Best card game in town for law and order.

Incorrect.

It doesn't deter other criminals.

Check out all the states in the US that have capital punishment, and see how their law and order is going.

There's no place in civilised society for state-sanctioned premeditated killing as a form of punishment.

It is not a form of punishment, its a matter of taking out the garbage.

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Reply #72 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 7:24am

issuevoter wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

Capital punishment supported by a strong and fair judicial system of appeal hearings and trial by jury.
Best card game in town for law and order.

Incorrect.

It doesn't deter other criminals.

Check out all the states in the US that have capital punishment, and see how their law and order is going.

There's no place in civilised society for state-sanctioned premeditated killing as a form of punishment.

It is not a form of punishment ....

Capital punishment.

Concentrate on the second word for a minute or two, and then see if you can figure out where you went wrong.

If you're still struggling, let me know ... I'll help you out.

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: The ABC of our Islamophobia... Reply #73 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 8:35am Greggory, I take from your 'slippery' answer that you are in opposition of the teachings of the Koran visa vie capital punishment. Now for your views on death for apostasy. Let me guess; 'silly'.
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Reply #74 - Apr 11^th, 2015 at 9:11am

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Greggory, I take from your 'slippery' answer ...

Slippery? Which part was slippery?

"I don't support capital punishment under any circumstances, in any countries, for any crimes, or any other reason whatsoever."

My answer couldn't have been clearer, or more honest.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

... that you are in opposition of the teachings of the Koran visa vie capital punishment.

Absolutely correct.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Now for your views on death for apostasy. Let me guess; 'silly'.

Barbaric, to say the least.

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