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Reply #45 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:47am

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

a fanatical group of loonies who blindly follow what they are told by the alpha loonies.

that actually sounds a lot like happy lucky and some of the others on here that are terrified of Muslims

Bad knowledge is even more dangerous than ignorance .... and when their forces combine ... well, you get the picture.

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Reply #46 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

you are saying the government "let him loose"

Incorrect.

I'm saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems."

You're assuming that the government has acted in its best interests.

Please learn some basic English comprehension skills.

Having said that, if it turns out that the government have indeed let him loose so that he can cause chaos, I would not be surprised in the slightest.

As everybody knows, a frightened population is an easy-to-control population.

A bit of terror here and there keeps the public scared & docile, and is a good re-election strategy (they'll always look to the current government to keep them safe, rather than risking an inexperienced new-comer).

Politics 101.

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Reply #47 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

if a footballer did even 10 % of that , the controlling authorities would come out, in a united voice, and kick him out of the code.
they wouldn't tolerate someone damaging their brand.

yet religious authorities (islam, the shameful pedophile priests etc) seem to not give a hoot about their brand.

They need a good marketing person at the helm to drag them into the 21 st century.

The Dalai Llama on the other hand is a marketers dream

When was the last Buddhist kicked out of Buddhism? Grin

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Reply #48 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am

John Smith wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:49am:

So we have a fairly nasty character.
We have a magistrate let him loose.

And Greg and Pansi think that Tony Abbott has masterminded the whole scenario.

How so, with the separation of state and judiciary?
Thoughts?? Cheesy

After all your bitching about Gillard Thomo and Slipper, now you want separation of duties ?

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Reply #49 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:34pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

if a footballer did even 10 % of that , the controlling authorities would come out, in a united voice, and kick him out of the code.
they wouldn't tolerate someone damaging their brand.

yet religious authorities (islam, the shameful pedophile priests etc) seem to not give a hoot about their brand.

They need a good marketing person at the helm to drag them into the 21 st century.

The Dalai Llama on the other hand is a marketers dream

When was the last Buddhist kicked out of Buddhism? Grin

i dont think a monk would be allowed in a monastery if he bashed his mother , expressed evil intent and assaulted journalists.

thoughts?

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Reply #50 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

you are saying the government "let him loose"

Incorrect.

I'm saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems."

You're assuming that the government has acted in its best interests.

Please learn some basic English comprehension skills.

Having said that, if it turns out that the government have indeed let him loose so that he can cause chaos, I would not be surprised in the slightest.

As everybody knows, a frightened population is an easy-to-control population.

A bit of terror here and there keeps the public scared & docile, and is a good re-election strategy (they'll always look to the current government to keep them safe, rather than risking an inexperienced new-comer).

Politics 101.

incorrect.

if we were to say

"its in the banks best interest to keep credit card fees high" there is a clear implication that the bank are the responsible party.

if you and pansi say

"its in the governments best interest to let him loose" you are clearly implying the government are the responsible party .

this is clearly wrong. short of you supplying an email from canberra to the magistrates court (good luck with that) just admit you lied and get on with your day. Cheesy

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Reply #51 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

you are saying the government "let him loose"

Incorrect.

I'm saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems."

You're assuming that the government has acted in its best interests.

Please learn some basic English comprehension skills.

Having said that, if it turns out that the government have indeed let him loose so that he can cause chaos, I would not be surprised in the slightest.

As everybody knows, a frightened population is an easy-to-control population.

A bit of terror here and there keeps the public scared & docile, and is a good re-election strategy (they'll always look to the current government to keep them safe, rather than risking an inexperienced new-comer).

Politics 101.

incorrect.

if we were to say

"its in the banks best interest to keep credit card fees high" there is a clear implication that the bank are the responsible party.

if you and pansi say

"its in the governments best interest to let him loose" you are clearly implying the government are the responsible party .

this is clearly wrong. short of you supplying an email from canberra to the magistrates court (good luck with that) just admit you lied and get on with your day. Cheesy

When it comers to comprehension, you're worse than cods, and that's saying something.

Saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems" isn't stating that this has actually happened - it's merely stating what would be in the best interests of the government.

Even cods would be able to explain this to you.

(I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened, though)

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Reply #52 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 1:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 10:42am:

now now John,
greg said that the government "let him loose" to help their polling figures.
where did anyone from the right ever say that Gillard
"got the magistrate to let thommo off"

we of the right may not like thommo , but I never recall anyone saying that the federal government had a lever to pull to affect what a magistrate would do.

it's not chalk and cheese, separation of duties is separation of duties ...

and i can't count the number of times someone said Gillard had a reporter fired because he wrote a story alleging Gillard helped her ex boyfriend rort union funds.

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Reply #53 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 2:59pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:47am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Ahhh, the Herald Sun ... a bastion of truth, objectivity and non-inflammatory content.

Amazing, no sympathy for the bashed mother, no sympathy for the other people assaulted, no condemnation for the support of terrorism, just contempt for the messenger, mate you really should sneak out of the country and join ISIS you'd feel a whole lot better.

Seriously....just ignore her. She eventually gets the message ....

Awwww. ... did i hurt your feelings Lisa? Grin

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Reply #55 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

Soren wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Ahhh, the Herald Sun ... a bastion of truth, objectivity and non-inflammatory content.

Which part of that report did you find untruthful, subjective and inflammatory?

The fact that it was the from the Herald Sun.

Never mind Soren, somebody posted a proper link and i suitably denounced the guy as a dangerous whack-job based on that.

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Reply #56 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:38pm

Soren wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Ahhh, the Herald Sun ... a bastion of truth, objectivity and non-inflammatory content.

Which part of that report did you find untruthful, subjective and inflammatory?

"Remarkably, Deputy Chief Magistrate Jelena Popovic applauded Taha for his good behaviour at his very next court appearance.

"Ms Popovic made no mention of Taha’s assault on the photographer, who did not press charges." Alleged assault.

"Ms Popovic agreed to relax the thug’s bail conditions ... "

"The 35-year old brute came to police attention ... "

He IS a dangerous whack-job, though.

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Reply #57 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:34pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

if a footballer did even 10 % of that , the controlling authorities would come out, in a united voice, and kick him out of the code.
they wouldn't tolerate someone damaging their brand.

yet religious authorities (islam, the shameful pedophile priests etc) seem to not give a hoot about their brand.

They need a good marketing person at the helm to drag them into the 21 st century.

The Dalai Llama on the other hand is a marketers dream

When was the last Buddhist kicked out of Buddhism? Grin

i dont think a monk would be allowed in a monastery if he bashed his mother , expressed evil intent and assaulted journalists.

thoughts?

Depends. Does he show remorse for these acts of cruelty? Was he mentally ill?

What is more important I think is when was the last ordinary Buddhist thrown out of Buddhism, rather than referring to a monk, who is more a specialised sort of Buddhist over an ordinary, lay person Buddhist?

Lets keep this to a level playing field, please, instead of moving the goal posts like Soren enjoys doing so often in the middle of his arguments! Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #58 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:03pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:01pm:

Why? Because she questions what the Murdoch media tells her? Roll Eyes

So you believe it's all made up too?

What I suspect is immaterial, as I am not necessarily actually discussing the report as the reaction to what Mothra has said about the report. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #59 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:40pm

Most of the denizens on this BBS are ignorant of the fact that the objective of the law is rehabilitation not punishment.

The magistrate was correct in rewarding ostensibly good behaviour.

The real problem with this man is whether the police and other provacateurs will push him too far and cause him to react excessively.

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