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Re: Could this be the next coffee shop shooter?
Reply #75 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The trouble with letting him out is that a guy like that needs 24 hour surveillance and that costs a stack of money. Cheaper to keep him in prison pending psychiatric evaluation. Why was he given bail? It looks like we're going down the same track as the Sydney cafe bomber whatshisname.

He should be arrested & held in custody as it's
too dangerous to let this animal loose.

It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems.

A frightened population is an easy-to-control population (and they're more likely to vote for the incumbent government).

You have a point.

you are one seriously gullible and easily-swayed dope.

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Reply #76 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:52pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The trouble with letting him out is that a guy like that needs 24 hour surveillance and that costs a stack of money. Cheaper to keep him in prison pending psychiatric evaluation. Why was he given bail? It looks like we're going down the same track as the Sydney cafe bomber whatshisname.

He should be arrested & held in custody as it's
too dangerous to let this animal loose.

It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems.

A frightened population is an easy-to-control population (and they're more likely to vote for the incumbent government).

You have a point.

No terrorists = no fear = no need for governments to protect us.

A little chaos goes a long way in keeping governments in power.

Of course, that piece fits perfectly in the 'war on terrorism' jigsaw puzzle.....and they all cried.............oh no! another terrorist attack.

conveniently forgetting that 'another terrorist attack' did in fact happen and multiple times and still do. But you keep up your delusion that terrorism doesn't exist. Maybe a bomb blast will clue you in. COuld be a bit late tho.

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Re: Could this be the next coffee shop shooter?
Reply #77 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

so greg, let me get this straight.
you stated that this man was released on bail BECAUSE it suits the government to have terrorist acts and fear in the community.

No.

I said: "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems."

I didn't say that's what has actually happened (but if it is, I'm not surprised in the least).

Moreover, it most certainly does suit the government to have terrorist acts and fear in the community.

This is 'Governing The Masses 101' - A frightened population is an easy-to-control population.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

1 you seem to be admitting he may perform a terrorist act
2 you seem to be implying that the government (federal) influenced a state magistrate in Labor Victoria.

1. I'm not sure why you use the term "admitting". He seems to be an absolute nut-job who is perfectly capable of performing an act of terror in the community.

2. As, I said before, I didn't say that was what has actually happened. However, the prospect of federal governments having an influence on state magistrates is perfectly plausible.

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I find the second claim quite odd.

Perhaps you are as naive as your post suggests.

let the pedantic backpedalling begin...

peccahead, you are as predictable as you are pointless.

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Reply #78 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

you are saying the government "let him loose"

Incorrect.

I'm saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems."

You're assuming that the government has acted in its best interests.

Please learn some basic English comprehension skills.

Having said that, if it turns out that the government have indeed let him loose so that he can cause chaos, I would not be surprised in the slightest.

As everybody knows, a frightened population is an easy-to-control population.

A bit of terror here and there keeps the public scared & docile, and is a good re-election strategy (they'll always look to the current government to keep them safe, rather than risking an inexperienced new-comer).

Politics 101.

incorrect.

if we were to say

"its in the banks best interest to keep credit card fees high" there is a clear implication that the bank are the responsible party.

if you and pansi say

"its in the governments best interest to let him loose" you are clearly implying the government are the responsible party .

this is clearly wrong. short of you supplying an email from canberra to the magistrates court (good luck with that) just admit you lied and get on with your day. Cheesy

When it comers to comprehension, you're worse than cods, and that's saying something.

Saying "It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems" isn't stating that this has actually happened - it's merely stating what would be in the best interests of the government.

Even cods would be able to explain this to you.

(I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened, though)

you really are quite the silly and stupid person. A singular event that MAY advantage another completely separate person does not in any way imply there is any link of any kind. That is the kind of stupidity that GReens-lose and JS are known for.

you lied. you got it wrong. as you so often do.

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Re: Could this be the next coffee shop shooter?
Reply #79 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The trouble with letting him out is that a guy like that needs 24 hour surveillance and that costs a stack of money. Cheaper to keep him in prison pending psychiatric evaluation. Why was he given bail? It looks like we're going down the same track as the Sydney cafe bomber whatshisname.

He should be arrested & held in custody as it's
too dangerous to let this animal loose.

It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems.

A frightened population is an easy-to-control population (and they're more likely to vote for the incumbent government).

You have a point.

No terrorists = no fear = no need for governments to protect us.

A little chaos goes a long way in keeping governments in power.

Of course, that piece fits perfectly in the 'war on terrorism' jigsaw puzzle.....and they all cried.............oh no! another terrorist attack.

conveniently forgetting that 'another terrorist attack' did in fact happen and multiple times and still do. But you keep up your delusion that terrorism doesn't exist. Maybe a bomb blast will clue you in. COuld be a bit late tho.

Terrorism exists all right longy and there will be another attack, and they still cried....oh no! another terrorist attack.

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Reply #80 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:13pm

Svengali wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 9:40pm:

Most of the denizens on this BBS are ignorant of the fact that the objective of the law is rehabilitation not punishment.

The magistrate was correct in rewarding ostensibly good behaviour.

The real problem with this man is whether the police and other provacateurs will push him too far and cause him to react excessively.

what provocation would cause you to blow up or otherwise kill innocents? do you think there is ever any good enough provocation for that?

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Reply #81 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:17pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The trouble with letting him out is that a guy like that needs 24 hour surveillance and that costs a stack of money. Cheaper to keep him in prison pending psychiatric evaluation. Why was he given bail? It looks like we're going down the same track as the Sydney cafe bomber whatshisname.

He should be arrested & held in custody as it's
too dangerous to let this animal loose.

It's in the government's best interests to let him loose and hope that he causes problems.

A frightened population is an easy-to-control population (and they're more likely to vote for the incumbent government).

You have a point.

No terrorists = no fear = no need for governments to protect us.

A little chaos goes a long way in keeping governments in power.

Of course, that piece fits perfectly in the 'war on terrorism' jigsaw puzzle.....and they all cried.............oh no! another terrorist attack.

conveniently forgetting that 'another terrorist attack' did in fact happen and multiple times and still do. But you keep up your delusion that terrorism doesn't exist. Maybe a bomb blast will clue you in. COuld be a bit late tho.

Terrorism exists all right longy and there will be another attack, and they still cried....oh no! another terrorist attack.

well since you have opposed pretty much ever effort to end terrorism then what is your solution? surrender to ISIS? got a nice 9yo girl for them to rape? they seem to be into that in a big way.

we fight. and we kill them. That is how you get rid of vermin that treat women and children like that.

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Re: Could this be the next coffee shop shooter?
Reply #82 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

well since you have opposed pretty much ever effort to end terrorism then what is your solution? surrender to ISIS? got a nice 9yo girl for them to rape? they seem to be into that in a big way.

we fight. and we kill them. That is how you get rid of vermin that treat women and children like that.

ahh, for once we agree on something ... good to see you agreeing that priests found to meddle with kids should be killed, the vermin that they are!

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #83 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:26pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

well since you have opposed pretty much ever effort to end terrorism then what is your solution? surrender to ISIS? got a nice 9yo girl for them to rape? they seem to be into that in a big way.

we fight. and we kill them. That is how you get rid of vermin that treat women and children like that.

ahh, for once we agree on something ... good to see you agreeing that priests found to meddle with kids should be killed, the vermin that they are!

IM hoping that the western powers finally launch all out war against Isis. million soldiers with ROI to shoot to kill. Bombers that carpet bomb the entire IS establishment. to the last 'man'.

a few months and it will be over.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42629	Re: Could this be the next coffee shop shooter? Reply #84 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:29pm You would need IS to actually manage to represent a real, credible threat to the West. At the moment, it's losing the war, so it doesn't.
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Reply #85 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

conveniently forgetting that 'another terrorist attack' did in fact happen and multiple times and still do. But you keep up your delusion that terrorism doesn't exist. Maybe a bomb blast will clue you in. COuld be a bit late tho.

You seem quite confused.

Nobody has claimed that terrorism doesn't exist.

The odd act of terrorism here and there, along with the apprehension of "would-be terrorists", puts any government in good stead for re-election.

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Reply #86 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

well since you have opposed pretty much ever effort to end terrorism then what is your solution? surrender to ISIS? got a nice 9yo girl for them to rape? they seem to be into that in a big way.

we fight. and we kill them. That is how you get rid of vermin that treat women and children like that.

ahh, for once we agree on something ... good to see you agreeing that priests found to meddle with kids should be killed, the vermin that they are!

IM hoping that the western powers finally launch all out war against Isis. million soldiers with ROI to shoot to kill. Bombers that carpet bomb the entire IS establishment. to the last 'man'.

a few months and it will be over.

the only way we'll ever see an end to all the crap from the middle east is to nuke the lot of them ... including Israel. It'll never happen though, the west loves off oil and money overrides it's desire for peace.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #87 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:29pm:

You would need IS to actually manage to represent a real, credible threat to the West. At the moment, it's losing the war, so it doesn't. Roll Eyes

Yeeees.... but isn't it better to ensure that they do NOT pose a credible threat, given their track record and their rhetoric, by crushing them before they become a credible threat?

Add to that the argument often passed around about Sad Sam Hussein and The Colonel in Libya... did they not maintain a certain standard of control over their extreme elements and thus ensure that We of The West did not have to crush every upstart movement inside their territory??

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.... and the enema of my enemy is also my friend... many blame the 'CIA' as mythologised and the 'military industrial complex' for maintaining conflicts to ensure their own existence...

Perhaps the truth is they are seeking the way of least effort and loss of their own to maintain a semblance of balance and peace.............

(damn - I sound like a 'rightie' at times... buggar....)

The above deep and penetrating commentary brought to you by the 'class clown' who posts videos and cartoons to make other points.... eat my shorts..... hush - ye know me not.....

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Reply #88 - Apr 19^th, 2015 at 10:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 19^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

well since you have opposed pretty much ever effort to end terrorism then what is your solution? surrender to ISIS? got a nice 9yo girl for them to rape? they seem to be into that in a big way.

we fight. and we kill them. That is how you get rid of vermin that treat women and children like that.

ahh, for once we agree on something ... good to see you agreeing that priests found to meddle with kids should be killed, the vermin that they are!

IM hoping that the western powers finally launch all out war against Isis. million soldiers with ROI to shoot to kill. Bombers that carpet bomb the entire IS establishment. to the last 'man'.

a few months and it will be over.

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