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Reply #60 - May 14^th, 2015 at 2:47pm

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429485279/58#58
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|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'
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But moslem clerics are!

Quote:

Muslim cleric killed fighting for the Islamic State
Jan 02, 2015 09:36 pm | Robert Spencer

How did a Muslim cleric get the idea that he should fight with the Islamic State?

Doesn’t he know that what they do has nothing to do with Islam?

Did he miss the Qur’an’s peaceful and tolerant passages?

“Saudi IS cleric killed in northern Syria,” Associated Press, January 2, 2015 […]

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/muslim-cleric-killed-fighting-for-the-islamic-...

QUESTION;
Why would anyone believe that ISIS [or the Taliban! or Al Nusra, or Boko Haram, etc, etc, etc] has any significant 'representation' or support, within moslem majority nations, when we know that those moslem nations are populated by moderate, tolerant moslems ??? Cheesy

Yadda says;
In any topical sense, a moderate moslem, is a [truly] mythical creature.

By definition, every person who self-describes as a moslem, is a creature [enthralled] of ISLAM.

And every moslem, is either a currently active [Jihadi], or, he is a currently 'dormant' ['moderate'] moslem [....waiting for Allah to provide him with an 'opportunity' to prove his bona-fides to his community].

Mujahid = = one who struggles for the sake of Allah and Islam. Islamic guerrilla fighter. denoting a person who fights a jihad.

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Yadda said....
Quote:

All moslems are moslems.

And these monsters [moslems] live among us.

What is a 'moslem' ?

By definition, 'the moslem' is a person who 'subscribes' to the tenets and laws of ISLAM.

n.b.
If 'the moslem' did not agree promise to adhere to the tenets and laws of ISLAM, then 'the moslem' would not be a moslem.

All moslems subscribe to the tenets and laws and the 'ideals', which are promoted by ISLAM and by Allah's prophet.

That, is the essential definition of a 'moslem'.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #61 - May 14^th, 2015 at 3:01pm

Hey girls !!!!

How can you resist an 'invitation' like this ???????? ------------- >

Moslem men want to honour you, by showing you just how lucky you are, to be raped by a gang of moslem men !

Quote:

Islamic jihadist says slavery biggest honor for non-Muslim women
Jan 02, 2015 09:02 pm | Robert Spencer

According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand”

(Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50).

The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general, as does this passage......

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/islamic-jihadists-says-slavery-biggest-honor-f...

THIS IS THE WORLD-VIEW OF EVERY MOSLEM [notwithstanding their lying denials] --------- >

Secular courts, in secular nations, which convict moslem men of the rape of non-moslem women, ARE OPPRESSING MOSLEMS.

[.....therefore Jihad operations against such jurisdictions are seeking to free moslems from 'oppression'!! Cheesy

< ----- this is the mindset, THE MADNESS, which we [who oppose ISLAM] are forced to struggle against!]

How so ?????????????

BECAUSE MOSLEM MEN ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING UNLAWFUL [IN ISLAMIC LAW].

MOSLEM MEN ARE MERELY IMITATING MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE OF CONDUCT.....

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Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what that means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust.

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them.

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8

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"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [i.e. Mohammed] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021

A MOSLEM 'RAPE-FEST' IS OCCURRING IN EUROPE - WHY ?
HAS THIS EPIDEMIC OF THE MOSLEM RAPE, OF NON-MOSLEM WOMEN IN EUROPE, GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM ?

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

Google;
bilal skaf, rape, uncovered women, no right to say no

Google,
"rape jihad"

Google,
Beslan 'jihad', murder and rape-fest, by 'terrorists'

Google,
Beslan 'jihad', babies knifed, school children raped

Quote:

"....attacks on girls as young as 13.... they had no right to say no. They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed:
...I’m not doing anything wrong."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825922999.html
from my archive, the link is old

Quote:

"....Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are....living in an infidel country."

By Abul Kasem
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/SexualityinIslam.htm
from my archive, the link is old

Quote:

"......A Muslim man commits rape if and only if he has sex with a Muslim woman....Having forced sex with an infidel woman does not at all constitute rape, Islamically speaking."

By Abul Kasem
http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/MeatImam.htm
from my archive, the link is old

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QUESTION;
Why would anyone believe that ISIS [or the Taliban! or Al Nusra, or Boko Haram, etc, etc, etc] has any significant 'representation' or support, within moslem majority nations, when we know that those moslem nations are populated by moderate, tolerant moslems ??? Cheesy

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #63 - May 14^th, 2015 at 6:57pm

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.? Grin

And what makes you think that anyone cares what you think or whether you listen or not? (Not even Brain and PB. You are utterly negligible.)

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #64 - May 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

I'm interested to find out where you got all your knowledge about Islam from... Grin

Don't ask him questions Hot Breath .. he doesn't like it. HE gets all evasive and asks you questions in return .. to deflect from the questions you ask him. Like he just did.

He's very unstable. It's the viking blood.

I bet you don't remember the question you asked me.
You would have easily re-posted it. Instead you dicker around as if.

Just stupid.

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #65 - May 14^th, 2015 at 10:04pm

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.?

Hot_Breath,

I am no authority on ISLAM.

I know nothing, of myself, of ISLAM.

That is why i listen attentively to what;
1/ moslem clerics/imams [esp. here in Australia and the UK]
2/ the Koran,
3/ the hadith and sunna of Mohammed, and ISLAMIC law
.....say in their clear and precise descriptions of how to be a good moslem.

As per the Koran.....

"Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger! Those who disbelieve and hinder men from the Cause of Allah, He will not pardon.....
Koran 47.33-35

"We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed..........they ['believers'] can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction."
Koran 4.64, 65

The Koran very explicitly, instructs believers to follow the instruction and guidance of their religion [without question], as it is interpreted by their clerics and imams.

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MOSLEM CLERICS/IMAMS #1;

A moslem community leader,

, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

FIRST publicly ------- >

Quote:

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

AND THEN PRIVATELY, TO A GROUP OF MOSLEMS ------- >

Quote:

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

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MOSLEM CLERICS/IMAMS #2;

ISLAM instructs moslems, that disbelievers are not 'innocent people'.

And mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine, instructs moslems, that moslems can 'lawfully' kill any non-moslem who rejects ISLAM.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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MOSLEM CLERICS/IMAMS #3;

IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Moslems are taught by ISLAMIC tenets and laws [from childhood], that it is a lawful act, for a moslem to kill a non-moslem who insults ISLAM, by rejecting ISLAM.

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

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THE KORAN,

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
Quote:

The heart of ISLAM is the Koran

[and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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THE HADITH AND SUNNA OF MOHAMMED, AND ISLAMIC LAW

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #66 - May 15^th, 2015 at 11:13am

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.? Grin

And what makes you think that anyone cares what you think or whether you listen or not? (Not even Brain and PB. You are utterly negligible.)

Yet you devote so much of your time answering my posts Soren! Grin

"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #67 - May 15^th, 2015 at 11:15am

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

I'm interested to find out where you got all your knowledge about Islam from... Grin

I bet you don't remember the question you asked me.
You would have easily re-posted it. Instead you dicker around as if.

Just stupid.

You really are a bit of a wally, aren't you Soren? Mothra can just scroll back to locate her question! Grin

"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #68 - May 15^th, 2015 at 2:40pm

|dev|null wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

I'm interested to find out where you got all your knowledge about Islam from... Grin

I bet you don't remember the question you asked me.
You would have easily re-posted it. Instead you dicker around as if.

Just stupid.

You really are a bit of a wally, aren't you Soren? Mothra can just scroll back to locate her question! Grin

Well, why doesn't she then?

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #69 - May 15^th, 2015 at 6:37pm

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.?

Hot_Breath,

I am no authority on ISLAM.

I know nothing, of myself, of ISLAM.

Why do you keep claiming otherwise, Yadda? Roll Eyes

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #70 - May 15^th, 2015 at 7:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.?

Hot_Breath,

I am no authority on ISLAM.

I know nothing, of myself, of ISLAM.

Why do you keep claiming otherwise, Yadda?

brian,

As i have already revealed to you, in post #65,

....i am simply following the [authentic ISLAMIC] information that is being 'broadcast' to the world [of moslems], by ISLAMIC holy texts, and by fellow moslems;

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429485279/65#65

as per.....

EXAMPLE #1;

Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

Google;

jihad is the pinnacle of islam

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EXAMPLE #2;

IMAGE.....

'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi

Watch as 'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi, in Indonesia, addresses    ....200,000 Indonesians.

Telling 200,000 Indonesians at a public meeting, that    "the moslems living in Australia"
      are engaged in 'the struggle' to eventually violently impose ISLAM and Sharia law upon Australians.

-------- >

Quote:

"......Yes my brothers, we will change the world to suit ISLAM. The moslems living in Australia are also engaging in this struggle....."

[i.e. 1st with moslems engaging in the 'peaceful' 'stealth' Jihad, with moslems telling naive Australians that; "ISLAM is a peaceful faith."

then later [when moslems are 'ready', whenever Allah provides the moslems in Australia with such an 'opportunity'], there will be the hot Jihad, in Australia]

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

-------- > goto 1m 40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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EXAMPLE #3;

Quote:

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC religious scholar, Sayyid Qutb

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EXAMPLE #4;

IMAGE...

Quote:

August 4, 2005
Australian Islamic leader defends jihad

"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.

"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is Islam."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1430551.htm

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EXAMPLE #5;

IMAGE...

"BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET"

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demonstrating and exposing to public view, the violent religious bigotry which ISLAM, has put into their hearts.

'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion'.

Demanding the 'religious freedom', to kill people who offend them, because they do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #71 - May 16^th, 2015 at 12:01am

Yadda wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.?

Hot_Breath,

I am no authority on ISLAM.

I know nothing, of myself, of ISLAM.

Why do you keep claiming otherwise, Yadda? Roll Eyes

brian,

As i have already revealed to you, in post #65, ....i am simply following the [authentic ISLAMIC] information that is being 'broadcast' to the world [of moslems], by ISLAMIC holy texts, and by fellow moslems;

You ever consider that you're listening to the words of the extremists rather than what the mainstream Muslims believe or do, Yadda? Its the equivalent of saying that Joseph Koney is representative of the majority of Christians... Roll Eyes

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Reply #72 - May 16^th, 2015 at 1:46pm

Response to post #71 -------- >

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

.....
.....

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

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THE KORAN - ISLAM's PRE-EMINENT 'HOLY' SCRIPTURE;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

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THE HADITH AND SUNNA OF MOHAMMED, AND ISLAMIC LAW;

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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MAINSTREAM MOSLEM CLERICS/IMAMS;

ISLAM instructs moslems, that, no disbeliever is an 'innocent' person.

And mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine, instructs moslems, that moslems can 'lawfully' kill any non-moslem who rejects ISLAM.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #73 - May 18^th, 2015 at 11:05am

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Y, who made you an authority on Islam?

Did you go to a special Islamophobic school or something?

Hot_Breath,

I am not 'an authority on Islam'.

So, why should we listen to what you have to say about Islam Y.? Grin

And what makes you think that anyone cares what you think or whether you listen or not? (Not even Brain and PB. You are utterly negligible.)

Oh, I think Y. likes that I read his posts Soren. Grin

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Re: ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like
Reply #74 - May 18^th, 2015 at 8:37pm

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ISIS, is what an unrestrained ISLAM looks like

So they nuked a civilian population?
They deliberately infected syphilis on people?
They propped up evil dictators around the world?
They supply weapons to many of the most oppressive regimes in the world?

Oops, no that was the Christian USA!

Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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