crocodile wrote on Apr 27
th, 2015 at 9:24pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Apr 27
th, 2015 at 3:50pm:
No, as usual, you're being evasive, which tends to be a very good sign that you just repeated something you were told by rote without bothering to do any independent research to test it for yourself (if you're not still a schoolboy you certainly are behaving like one). That article you gave a link to does not say anything about studying what actually happened in Australian workplaces since, say, 2000, to determine whether working people had in fact put in more or less effort in the workplace, the extent of that extra effort (if any) and how that compared to increases in productivity due to technology. Now are you going to provide a link that verifies your claim or not. Now remember your words. You said that in Aust the growth in labour productivity is more to do with technology and "little to do with personal effort". A link please to the empirical evidence that that is in fact what occurred in Australia. Impressionable as you are, I'm surprised that even you would have missed that since 2000 (at least) the amount of time that Australian workers have spent in the workplace has increased phenomenally even though wages have declined in real terms and average Australian workers have been doing many more hours of unpaid work and that's not saying anything about the marked increase in stress at work due to employers pressuring workers for higher and higher targets at work.
You really are an irritating tosser. This halfwit claims that I'm being evasive yet I've taken the trouble to explain the position consistently. What have you come up with big brains. Nothing but insults and no substance to any argument. The best you've come up with is that Australian workers are spending more time in the workplace. Obviously didn't research that one too well.
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ScreenHunter_06-Feb.-...You're a first class clown sonny boy. Piss off and do some growing up. Better still hang around, It's quite enjoyable watching you make a complete jackass of yourself.
First of all you will see that I did not put an argument to you but asked you to verify and provide a link to your claim that the growth in labour productivity in Australia has more to do with technology and "little to do with personal effort".You first tried to deflect that question by posting a very very long article that said nothing about the actual Australian, American or European experience re labour productivity and wages growth and now again you hurl heaps of insults but dont provide the link or any verification of your claim. That's called being evasive!!!!!
As to your claim that you have "taken the trouble to explain your position consistently. I have asked to you tell us why you maintain that growth in labour productivity will "necessarily" result in wages growth (which I believe is your contention) and not be redirected to that new car the boss always wanted. And again you have not sought to explain that very vital link to your argument. which suggests to me that your not really confident in the position you are putting. Do yourself a favour, next post do as you contend and actually explain your position, it will be useful to the debate.
As to the graph I have to say that I have long been suspicious of the Bureau of Stats. , I don't trust that the Govts of the day don't pressure them to juggle their data to come up with certain results. Yes, yes I know what you will say but that's too bad (I have been sus of the Bureau for many years now. Certainly that graph bears no relationship to my own personal experience and of all that I have heard my friends and colleagues and the wider community express over the last 5 to 7 years.
In 2013 Australia ranked ninth amongst OECD countries with an average working week for full-time employees of 42.8 hours. Way more then the US, Canada, the UK and most of Europe including Germany and Switzeland . Also
Australians continue to ‘donate’ many hours of overtime amounting to millions of dollars in foregone pay and less time for themselves.
On average full-time workers reported working six hours unpaid overtime each week and part-timers, three hours. This donated contribution adds up to 1.13 million hours or $2.1 billion – a week. The average worker donates $9,471 in unpaid overtime to their employers each year, which adds up to $109.8 billion across the workforce.3 Unpaid hours represent approximately 14.7 per cent of all hours worked. While this represents a large contribution of free labour, it also exceeds the hours required to find employment for Australians looking for work. If these donated hours were allocated to and paid to Australians looking for work the unemployment rate could be zero rather than 6.2 per cent.
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