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Reply #90 - May 9th, 2015 at 12:18am
 
mothra wrote on May 9th, 2015 at 12:10am:
It;s a little bit hilarious and a little bit frightening when satire becomes truth to the observer.

You gotta question yourself at that point don't you?



I find it hilarious.

The fact that these fools don't understand what Condell is doing is just hysterical to me.

Takes all kinds, I suppose.

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Reply #91 - May 9th, 2015 at 8:08am
 
The idiot lefts outrage meter is hovering around apoplectic, it can only mean one thing, Pat Condell is right on the money.  Grin
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Reply #92 - May 9th, 2015 at 8:11am
 
Labors Ed Miliband promised to take care of people like pat Condell once and for all ... and where is Ed now? , he got taken care of instead  Grin ... but Pats still here, good onya Pat.  Smiley
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Reply #93 - May 9th, 2015 at 8:21am
 
"incurably progressive, or just plain out of their minds." Nice one Pat.
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Reply #94 - May 9th, 2015 at 9:17am
 
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Reply #95 - May 9th, 2015 at 9:17am
 
Noam Chomsky (Jan 2015) "We Are All ... Fill in the Blank"

The world reacted with horror to the murderous attack on the French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo. In the NY Times, Europe correspondent Steven Erlanger graphically described the immediate aftermath, what many call France’s 9/11, as “a day of sirens, helicopters in the air, frantic news bulletins; of police cordons and anxious crowds; of young children led away from schools to safety. It was a day, like the previous two, of blood and horror in and around Paris.” The enormous outcry worldwide was accompanied by reflection about the deeper roots of the atrocity. “Many Perceive a Clash of Civilizations,” a NY Times headline read.

The reaction of horror and revulsion about the crime is justified, as is the search for deeper roots, as long as we keep some principles firmly in mind. The reaction should be completely independent of what one thinks about this journal and what it produces. The passionate and ubiquitous chants “I am Charlie,” and the like, should not be meant to indicate, even hint at, any association with the journal, at least in the context of defense of freedom of speech. Rather, they should express defense of the right of free expression whatever one thinks of the contents, even if they are regarded as hateful and depraved.

And the chants should also express condemnation for violence and terror. The head of Israel’s Labor Party, Isaac Herzog, is quite right when he says that “Terrorism is terrorism. There’s no two ways about it.” He is also right to say that “All the nations that seek peace and freedom [face] an enormous challenge” from murderous terrorism – putting aside his predictably selective interpretation of the challenge.

Erlanger vividly describes the scene of horror; “Everything crashed. There was no way out. There was smoke everywhere. It was terrible. People were screaming. It was like a nightmare.” Another surviving journalist reported a “huge detonation, and everything went completely dark.” The scene, Erlanger reported, “was an increasingly familiar one of smashed glass, broken walls, twisted timbers, scorched paint and emotional devastation.” At least 10 people were reported at once to have died in the explosion, with 20 missing, “presumably buried in the rubble.”

These quotes, as David Peterson reminds us, are not, however, from January 2015. Rather, they are from a story of Erlanger’s on April 24 1999, which made it only to page 6 of the NY Times. Erlanger was reporting on the NATO (meaning US) “missile attack on Serbian state television headquarters” that “knocked Radio Television Serbia off the air.”

There was an official justification. “NATO and American officials defended the attack,” Erlanger reports, “as an effort to undermine the regime of President Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia.” A Pentagon spokesman told a briefing in Washington that “Serb TV is as much a part of Milosevic's murder machine as his military is,” hence a legitimate target of attack.

The Yugoslavian government said that “The entire nation is with our President, Slobodan Milosevic,” Erlanger reports, adding that “How the Government knows that with such precision was not clear.”

No such sardonic comments are in order when we read that France mourns the dead and the world is outraged by the atrocity. There need also be no inquiry into the deeper roots, no profound questions about who stands for civilization, and who for barbarism.

Isaac Herzog, then, is mistaken when he says that “Terrorism is terrorism. There’s no two ways about it.” There are quite definitely two ways about it: terrorism is not terrorism when a much more severe terrorist attack is carried out by those who are Righteous by virtue of their power. Similarly, there is no assault against freedom of speech when the Righteous destroy a TV channel supportive of a government that they are attacking.

By the same token, we can readily comprehend the comment in the NY Times of civil rights lawyer Floyd Abrams, noted for his forceful defense of freedom of expression, that the Charlie Hebdo attack is “the most threatening assault on journalism in living memory.” He is quite correct about “living memory,” which carefully assigns assaults on journalism and acts of terror to their proper categories: Theirs, which are horrendous; and Ours, which are virtuous and easily dismissed from living memory.

We might recall as well that this is only one of many assaults by the Righteous on free expression. To mention only one example that is easily erased from “living memory,” the assault on Falluja by US forces in November 2004, one of the worst crimes of the invasion of Iraq, opened with occupation of Falluja General Hospital. Military occupation of a hospital is, of course, a serious war crime in itself, even apart from the manner in which it was carried out, blandly reported in a front-page story in the NY Times, accompanied with a photograph depicting the crime. The story reported that “Patients and hospital employees were rushed out of rooms by armed soldiers and ordered to sit or lie on the floor while troops tied their hands behind their backs.” The crimes were reported as highly meritorious, and justified: “The offensive also shut down what officers said was a propaganda weapon for the militants: Falluja General Hospital, with its stream of reports of civilian casualties.”

Evidently such a propaganda agency cannot be permitted to spew forth its vulgar obscenities.
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Reply #96 - May 9th, 2015 at 12:33pm
 
mothra wrote on May 8th, 2015 at 5:50pm:
Soren wrote on May 8th, 2015 at 5:38pm:




What do you mean another? You're yet to provide a first.



I can only conclude that you cannot read anything more than 3 lines long - or if you can sound it out, you do not comprehend it.

Try again:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/02/cartoon_d... Christopher Hitchens is critical of al religions, including Islam.

Or try to read or listen to Bernard Lewis, Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University. You don't get top be a Professor Emeritus at Princeton by being an irrational Islamophobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8qG0GADVs


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/11/19/the-revolt-of-islam
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Reply #97 - May 9th, 2015 at 2:40pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Soren wrote on May 3rd, 2015 at 12:04am:
That there is no reasonable way to completely reject Islam?


Of course there is.  Problem is, you don't do it because of your malady.





Show me an example of a reasonable way of completely rejecting Islam.  You say there is such a way.

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