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Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe
May 7^th, 2015 at 3:40pm

Even prior to and since the now thrown out LNP Government appointed their "Uncle Tom" as Chief Justice (the schmuck was a lousy and disrespected toe-germ Magistrate) there has been controversary.

Now, it infects the Morcombe/Cowan Appeal.

That appeal proceeded before three Judges including Carmody. After arguments had closed, it became known that Carmody had a meeting with Hetty Johnson (sp) the head of a mob called Brave Hearts (child molest victim lobby group) before the appeal commenced.

It also latterly emerged that the Morcombe parents are in regular contact with Hetty.

So.....the convicted Cowan's lawyers want the appeal reheard and Carmody removed from the process on the grounds of perceived bias.

The first cab off that rank was heard today and that was simply to determine whether Carmody himself should even be part of the discussion/decision concerning the allegation against him of perceived bias. After weeks of holding ground, today he voluntarily withdrew from hearing whether there was perceived bias.

But.....in his comments made today, he proved by his verbose loud undignified mouth that there is genuine merit in the allegation that he is of fixed and predetermined mind

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He said the application to remove him did not have merit and the allegation of bias was "absurd and extraordinary".

How else can they be interpreted,

given he had to even heard the submissions about the allegation of perceived bias

, other than as a pre-determination of the issue......thus actual bias.....let alone the mere perception of it?

What an idiot we have as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Queensland.

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe Reply #1 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:57pm Why don't they just accidentally let this c$%t out into the general prison population area and be done with it.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38571 Gender:	Re: Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:59pm innocentbystander. wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 3:57pm: Why don't they just accidentally let this c$%t out into the general prison population area and be done with it. How would that improve anything?
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Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2015 at 4:13pm

oh aussie on the rampage about INJUSTICE for a filthy child murderer wouldnt you know.....

if this was the Morcombes complaining he would more than be on side with the appeal judge...

isnt it 3 votes .. in an appeal.. so 2 to 1...

your bias constantly shows through what makes you think no one else is allowed to have any bias.. Angry

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Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2015 at 4:16pm

cods wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

oh aussie on the rampage about INJUSTICE for a filthy child murderer wouldnt you know.....

if this was the Morcombes complaining he would more than be on side with the appeal judge...

isnt it 3 votes .. in an appeal.. so 2 to 1...

your bias constantly shows through what makes you think no one else is allowed to have any bias.. Angry

Not when you are a Judge. You are there to deal in Law, and not allow any real or perceived bias to play any part in the process.

My bias is towards seeing the Law applied......not your or my sense of 'justice.'

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Reply #5 - May 8^th, 2015 at 1:40pm

This is hotting up. The Head of the (Qld) Court of Appeal Margaret McMurdo has said she will never sit with Carmody on the Bench, and good on her for taking that stand. Poor old Palaszczuk is stuck between a rock and a hard place as Carmody was not an ALP appointment, rather the LNP's Newmann and Bleijie. She can't sack him but has to say something and that has been that the Court needs to resolve its own issues. If McMudo's stand is supported by other Supreme Court Judges, then the pressure will be back onto Carmody to bloody well resign, which the legal lightweight should. But, so far, he has demonstrated an ego and depth of arrogant hide as suggests he ain't gonna give the free parking spot away easily.

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Tim Carmody stoush: Head of Queensland Appeals Court Margaret McMurdo refuses to work with Chief Justice

An email exchange has revealed the head of Queensland's Court of Appeal, Justice Margaret McMurdo, will no longer work with controversial Chief Justice Tim Carmody.

The Chief Justice yesterday withdrew from hearing the appeal against the conviction of Daniel Morcombe's killer, Brett Peter Cowan, amid accusations of bias.

Cowan's legal team argued that a meeting between Chief Justice Carmody and child protection advocate Hetty Johnston in April, amid the appeal process, was grounds for Queensland's top judge to be disqualified from the case.

But in his comments delivered to the court yesterday, Chief Justice Carmody said Justice McMurdo had also raised concerns about the perception of bias or prejudice from him in the Cowan appeal.

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Reply #6 - May 8^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

cods wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

oh aussie on the rampage about INJUSTICE for a filthy child murderer wouldnt you know.....

if this was the Morcombes complaining he would more than be on side with the appeal judge...

isnt it 3 votes .. in an appeal.. so 2 to 1...

your bias constantly shows through what makes you think no one else is allowed to have any bias.. Angry

Carmody has to remove himself cods. Child killer or not the Chief Justice did a big no no and the perception of bias is there.

If he was to hear it and the appeal dismissed then Cowan's lawyers have more ammunition to appeal again, putting this poor family through more stress. No one wants that.

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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.

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Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

Get out of there Carmody. How many people must tell you?

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Chief Justice Tim Carmody has himself to blame for judiciary's dysfunction, recently retired Supreme Court judge says

Queensland's Chief Justice Tim Carmody only has himself to blame for the deepening dysfunction in the judiciary, a recently retired Supreme Court judge says.

In a stinging attack, Alan Wilson said Justice Carmody needed to consider his position or Parliament can hold an inquiry into his suitability.

Both side of politics however do not want to interfere.

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Justice Wilson, a previous vocal critic of Justice Carmody, said he needed to reflect on whether the brand of the office of Chief Justice and the judiciary had been damaged.

"His statement to the court yesterday and all his hand-wringing and self pity can't disguise that it was a combination of his own delay and his own fundamental mistakes that have brought about this very sad state of affairs," Justice Wilson told 612 ABC Brisbane.

"I can't imagine anyone has the slightest shadow of doubt that damage is being done.

"The answer to the problem is in two sets of hands, one Mr Carmody himself or Parliament and steps it can take under the Constitution.

"I don't think it is going to go away as a problem."

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Queensland Council for Civil Liberties vice-president Terry O'Gorman has also weighed in, calling on the Chief Justice to resolve the dispute.

"To have a Chief Justice make so many mistakes goes back to the fundamental issue of the botched appointment," he said.

"The Chief Justice has the problem, the Chief Justice has to solve the problem.

"The fact is the Chief Justice said a couple of months ago that if his occupying the position of Chief Justice made the position of the Supreme Court untenable ... he would resign, the position is becoming increasing untenable.

"There are so many problems with the ongoing occupancy by Justice Carmody of the position of Chief Justice that this stalemate has to come to an end, this crisis has to be addressed. He is the only one who can address it."

In other words ~ Ferk off Carmody!

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38571 Gender:	Re: Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe Reply #8 - May 14^th, 2015 at 5:05pm Sooooo, a convenient month's sick leave for Carmody. Link. Just ferk orf Carmody. Save yourself the grief. You ain't up for/to it, and you never will be.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe Reply #9 - May 14^th, 2015 at 5:14pm aussie has spoke he knows more than anyone.. come on come on.... as far as I read he was gone.. took himself off the case.. didnt he hear aussie..
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Qld Supreme Ct. farce continues/Morcombe Reply #10 - May 14^th, 2015 at 5:14pm Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 5:05pm: Sooooo, a convenient month's sick leave for Carmody. Link. Just ferk orf Carmody. Save yourself the grief. You ain't up for/to it, and you never will be. hilarious
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Reply #11 - May 14^th, 2015 at 5:31pm

cods wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

aussie has spoke he knows more than anyone.. come on come on....

as far as I read he was gone.. took himself off the case..

didnt he hear aussie..

Indeed he did, cods.....kicking and screaming like a bloody and petulant banshee. He should never have had anything to do with the Cowan case, and it took as good as half a bloody year for the idiot to finally confront and deal with his ferk up. He was at the end of the plank and about to be pushed off when he finally realised he had to get out of the case.

Now.....he has a convenient bad back, and needs a month off.

He needs to get right off the judicial ship now, because if he stays on board, it will not be long before he is standing at the end of exactly the same plank with exactly the same cutlass at his back.

Bloody idiot, he is.

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Reply #12 - May 14^th, 2015 at 7:32pm

It wouldn't be QLD if it wasn't corruption from both sides of politics. NSW certainly has its share, but in QLD it just never ends.

Maybe it is the sun or perhaps, it is the absence of an upper house. Those upper house's can be a pain in the bum but usually (but not all the time) they prove to be a bit of a block that modifies truly bad govt. And qld doesn't have one. Unfortunately, the current senate is doing all it can to make upper houses look bad. I don't recall any serious discussion on removing the senate until recently.

QLD needs an upper house.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #13 - May 18^th, 2015 at 10:26pm

Carmody yet again!

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A Queensland judge reportedly made a secret recording of a heated conversation with Chief Justice Tim Carmody during a meeting in which he allegedly referred to the state's judiciary as "scum".

Justice Carmody's role as Chief Justice has come under increasing scrutiny after a series of spats with members of Queensland's judiciary.

In the latest sign of tensions on the bench, The Australian reported that Justice John Byrne used a smart phone to secretly record an expletive-laden meeting in February with Chief Justice Carmody and Justice David Boddice.

The paper said the three were discussing an Electoral Commission of Queensland referral of the result in the Brisbane seat of Ferny Grove to the Court of Disputed Returns, and who would preside over the case.

Chief Justice Carmody allegedly referred to judges collectively as "scum" during the conversation.

The outcome in Ferny Grove was crucial in this year's State Election.

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Go, Carmody! Ferk off!

(As an aside...and yeas you can scoff if you want.....I know all these people...........they are my contemporaries, and given his personal background, I am more likely to be drawn to a "Carmody" than some of these other 'toff' like blokes, but nah......you are an embarrassment Carmody. Please....just go!)

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Reply #14 - May 19^th, 2015 at 10:23pm

It is not going to go away Carmody, you idiot!

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Today, Cowan's lawyers Peter Shields and Michael Copley lodged a submission to the court criticising the delay in handing down a verdict and calling for the two remaining judges in the case to release their findings.

"On this issue of delay, Mr and Mrs Morcombe have both been publicly critical of the court. With respect, rightly so. Mr Cowan also wishes to see a judgment," the submission said.

"Success on the appeal for Mr Cowan, or success on a subsequent appeal to the High Court of Australia, will result in his release from prison.

"Mr Cowan complied with all directions given by the court in the preparation of the appeal.

"He presented his oral argument in the time allocated by the court. No blame for the delay in the disposition of the appeals lies with Mr Cowan."

In the submission, Cowan's lawyers said while the two other judges sitting on the case seem to have prepared and circulated draft judgments,

the same could not be said of Justice Carmody.

They said there was no evidence or even a claim that Justice Carmody had taken any steps over the past five months to prepare and deliver judgements.

Just please ferk orf, Carmody!

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