Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
Its like trying to have an intelligent discussion with bart simpson only this one's dumber. Go back to post 75 and have the courage to answer it because until you do the "You got nothing" claim is as transparently false as you are. 

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:


More apologetics and ignorance from the morally bankrupt apologists.

The Library of Alexandria was hardly a muslim library when it was built in the 3rd century BC,when did $Profit Mo invent Islam?
In 642 AD when muslims conquered Egypt they burnt the library down.

Diophantus wrote Arithmetica which contained far more complex Algebra than any muslim works a few hundred years later,Diophantus is called the father of Algebra.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus

Dubai built their first concrete building around 1960,when did the Italians invent concrete,how much concrete would Dubai have today if they had n oil money to pay foreigners to build stuff?

Apart from oil and Islam the middle east contributes nothing to modern society,Cyrus the great abolished slavery around 530BC it returned when Islam conquered Persia,$Profit Mo was telling muslims not to bury their daughters alive when Persia was ruled by a woman.

Islam has been a major setback for the middle east,look at the sectarian wars between sunni and shia that have been going on for over 1400 years.

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

BTW I already answered your crap.
Wassup, didn't get it?  Still don't?
Want me to type more s l o w l y or try from another angle perhaps?
1/ not all Christians are Catholics or belong to Churches with Priests...  do you understand that?   Seems that you don't.
2/ not all people are religious and as such your question really holds no meaning for them. Beyond your ability to comprehend eh.
3/ You keep calling me names and slandering me yet have failed to even once provide evidence that I am in anyway a misogynist.  I actually have a very healthy attraction to and appreciation of women.  progs like yourself it seems just like lying about people who disagree with their pov.  sad and pathetic.
4/ you have no idea about my sexuality and again have provided absolutely no evidence of me condemning in anyway, let alone what you call a Christian way... homosexuality.  BTW not all Christians condemn homosexuality at all.
certainly not a thing I've ever done.

Now I expect more ignoring the facts and strawmen and misquotes and lies from you, but why would a sane person persist carrying on the way you do?

Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:




Well i wasn't talking to you was i? Boy Wonder.

... and the link post inventions over the span of centuries. Many of them being most modern.

Objective facts are hard to digest when you're prejudiced but really, it's all in handy dot points. Not challenging concepts or anything. You should be able to stumble your way through it.

Go you.

Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:


Grendel.....who was the bloke who said this......

Quote:


Was that you making the very assumption you deny of others?  Was it?

Baronvonrort wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:


Apology accepted. You weren't to know. You do know the Renaissance started about 800 years after islam was established. As for the doco I mentioned I believe now that it was about the Greek classics.  This is what wikipedia says under the title Transmission of the Greek Classics" (look it up)

The introduction of Greek philosophy and science into the culture of the Latin West in the Middle Ages was an event that transformed the intellectual life of Western Europe.It consisted of the discovery of many original works.. Greek manuscripts have been maintained in the Greek speaking world in Constantinople, Armenia, Syria, and Alexandria....

Arab translations and commentary - Arab logicians had inherited Greek ideas after their invasion of southern portions of the Byzantine Empire. Their translations and commentaries on these ideas worked their way through the Arab West into Spain and Sicily, which became important centers for this transmission of ideas. This work of translation from Islamic culture, though largely unplanned and disorganized, constituted one of the greatest transmissions of ideas in history.


Abbasids

The main period of translation was during Abbasid rule. The 2nd Abassid Caliph Al-Mansur moved the capital from Damascus to Baghdad. Here found the great Persian Library with texts containing both Greek Classical texts as well as texts from ancient India. Al-Mansur ordered this rich fund of world literature translated into Arabic. Under al-Mansur and by his orders, translations were made from Greek, Syriac, and Persian, the Syriac and Persian books being themselves translations from Greek or Sanskrit.

Owing to the legacy of the 6th century King of Persia, Anushirvan (Chosroes I) the Just had introducing many Greek ideas into his kingdom. Aided by this knowledge and juxtaposition of beliefs, the Abassids considered it valuable to look at Islam with Greek eyes, and to look at the Greeks with Islamic eyes.[18] Abassid philosophers also pressed the idea that Islam had from the very beginning stressed the gathering of knowledge as important to the religion. These new lines of thought allowed the work of amassing and translating Greek ideas to expand as it never before had.

You can get the rest I dont have much space.    As to the rest of your post

See Wikipedia's article on Roman concrete if you doubt that they had concrete.   

As to algebra Wikipedia says "Much early work in algebra, as the Arabic origin of its name suggests, was done in the Near East, by such mathematicians as Omar Khayyam (1048–1131).The first complete arithmetic solution (including zero and negative solutions) to quadratic equations was described by Brahmagupta (an Indian). Later, Arabic and Muslim mathematicians developed algebraic methods to a much higher degree of sophistication. Although Diophantus and the Babylonians used mostly special ad hoc methods to solve equations, Al-Khwarizmi contribution was fundamental. He solved linear and quadratic equations without algebraic symbolism, negative numbers or zero, thus he has to distinguish several types of equations (shame on you for not reproducing this properly).

Your claim that islam has contributed nothing but oil is not only wrong but desperate. A determination to see only what you want to see to satisfy your bigotry. The Europeans have been at each others throats since when? And they embroiled the world in 2 world wars. How long have the Irish catholics and Prods been at it. Like I say, desperate to satisfy your bigotry.      

Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:
Look I'm happy to leave it to anyone interested to go back and see for themselves whether I'm right that your just being evasive. But I will give you one last chance and then I'm finished with your silly Bart Simpson games. (i) Do you support the ordination of women priests and the right of homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. Now if you don't answer this time I think we can safely conclude that you are just as misogynist and backward as the muslims you're condemning, which i happen to think is pathetic.