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Reply #135 - May 18th, 2015 at 3:46pm
 
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

Well I've never said that so like I said you need to grow a brain.
You link even posts so-called inventions from the 1600s...  hardly the modern world eh. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #136 - May 18th, 2015 at 3:55pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 10:47am:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 10:08am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
Grendel wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 9:42pm:
You people really do need to seek help.
You are what is known as the "useful-idiots" of the world.
As told by a Useless-Idiot of this world. 

Got nothing again I see...
Try discussing todays world and not the distant past eh.  There a good chappy... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Yes yes, you've been playing this transparently disingenuous game of "you've got nothing" since post 75 when it became obvious that you are every bit as misogynistic and backward as the muslims you accuse. 

Like you keep proving Spartacrap..  you've got nothing, not one quote from me to back up your lies and stupidity...  keep on Trolling.
It's "useful-idiots" like yourself that put the rest of us in harms way.
Its like trying to have an intelligent discussion with bart simpson only this one's dumber. Go back to post 75 and have the courage to answer it because until you do the "You got nothing" claim is as transparently false as you are. 
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Reply #137 - May 18th, 2015 at 4:16pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:06pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.


From your link it says they made the first computer virus, the bomb you stick up your ass is a 100% muslim invention.

All I have is al Haytham who wrote his book of optics while feigning madness while under house arrest because he feared the Caliph would kill him.

All I see is lots of lies on what they claim to have invented which is easily debunked

I don't know much of the history of it and like Mothra said earlier if that's your point you missed the point.The main point of the video is about how fools like Grendel are easily manipulated into irrational bigotry. But that aside I do recall watching a doco years ago about Renaissance Italy during which there was a revived interest in ancient Rome. Why? Because someone had discovered that much of the history, learning and culture of ancient Rome that the world had thought we had lost was in fact preserved in the muslim library at alexandria. Everything form literature to how to make concrete was preserved there for all mankind. That alone leaves me breathless with gratitude and admiration, to say nothing of course about algebra and the arabic number system to name a few. Its absurd to argue who contributed more and even more absurd to be so blinded by bigotry to believe that the middle east contributed very little, IMO.       
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Reply #138 - May 18th, 2015 at 5:55pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 4:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:06pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.


From your link it says they made the first computer virus, the bomb you stick up your ass is a 100% muslim invention.

All I have is al Haytham who wrote his book of optics while feigning madness while under house arrest because he feared the Caliph would kill him.

All I see is lots of lies on what they claim to have invented which is easily debunked

I don't know much of the history of it .....

But that aside I do recall watching a doco years ago about Renaissance Italy during which there was a revived interest in ancient Rome. Why? Because someone had discovered that much of the history, learning and culture of ancient Rome that the world had thought we had lost was in fact preserved in the muslim library at alexandria. Everything form literature to how to make concrete was preserved there for all mankind. That alone leaves me breathless with gratitude and admiration, to say nothing of course about algebra and the arabic number system to name a few. Its absurd to argue who contributed more and even more absurd to be so blinded by bigotry to believe that the middle east contributed very little, IMO.       


More apologetics and ignorance from the morally bankrupt apologists.

The Library of Alexandria was hardly a muslim library when it was built in the 3rd century BC,when did $Profit Mo invent Islam?
In 642 AD when muslims conquered Egypt they burnt the library down.

Diophantus wrote Arithmetica which contained far more complex Algebra than any muslim works a few hundred years later,Diophantus is called the father of Algebra.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus

Dubai built their first concrete building around 1960,when did the Italians invent concrete,how much concrete would Dubai have today if they had n oil money to pay foreigners to build stuff?

Apart from oil and Islam the middle east contributes nothing to modern society,Cyrus the great abolished slavery around 530BC it returned when Islam conquered Persia,$Profit Mo was telling muslims not to bury their daughters alive when Persia was ruled by a woman.

Islam has been a major setback for the middle east,look at the sectarian wars between sunni and shia that have been going on for over 1400 years.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #139 - May 18th, 2015 at 6:21pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:55pm:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 10:47am:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 10:08am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
Grendel wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 9:42pm:
You people really do need to seek help.
You are what is known as the "useful-idiots" of the world.
As told by a Useless-Idiot of this world. 

Got nothing again I see...
Try discussing todays world and not the distant past eh.  There a good chappy... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Yes yes, you've been playing this transparently disingenuous game of "you've got nothing" since post 75 when it became obvious that you are every bit as misogynistic and backward as the muslims you accuse. 

Like you keep proving Spartacrap..  you've got nothing, not one quote from me to back up your lies and stupidity...  keep on Trolling.
It's "useful-idiots" like yourself that put the rest of us in harms way.
Its like trying to have an intelligent discussion with bart simpson only this one's dumber. Go back to post 75 and have the courage to answer it because until you do the "You got nothing" claim is as transparently false as you are. 

We know you've got nothin' but why keep proving it...?
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Reply #140 - May 18th, 2015 at 6:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:12am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:05pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions.  Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin".  Please!!!! 

Not defensive at all...  factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.
Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh... 
You sir are a fool....  why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in...  you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests.  What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here...  you only prove your own stupidity.

BTW I already answered your crap.
Wassup, didn't get it?  Still don't?
Want me to type more s l o w l y or try from another angle perhaps?
1/ not all Christians are Catholics or belong to Churches with Priests...  do you understand that?   Seems that you don't.
2/ not all people are religious and as such your question really holds no meaning for them. Beyond your ability to comprehend eh.
3/ You keep calling me names and slandering me yet have failed to even once provide evidence that I am in anyway a misogynist.  I actually have a very healthy attraction to and appreciation of women.  progs like yourself it seems just like lying about people who disagree with their pov.  sad and pathetic.
4/ you have no idea about my sexuality and again have provided absolutely no evidence of me condemning in anyway, let alone what you call a Christian way... homosexuality.  BTW not all Christians condemn homosexuality at all.
certainly not a thing I've ever done.

Now I expect more ignoring the facts and strawmen and misquotes and lies from you, but why would a sane person persist carrying on the way you do?
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Reply #141 - May 18th, 2015 at 6:50pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 4:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:06pm:
[quote author=mothra link=1431656842/132#132 date=1431924996]I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.


From your link it says they made the first computer virus, the bomb you stick up your ass is a 100% muslim invention.

All I have is al Haytham who wrote his book of optics while feigning madness while under house arrest because he feared the Caliph would kill him.

All I see is lots of lies on what they claim to have invented which is easily debunked

I don't know much of the history of it and like Mothra said earlier if that's your point you missed the point.The main point of the video is about how fools like Grendel are easily manipulated into irrational bigotry.

Yet you still fail to provide even 1 example of it.  I am no doubt older, wiser and better educated than both of, you and more knowledgeable on this aspect of the topic, no amount of your mindless factless name calling will make you right about me...


But that aside I do recall watching a doco years ago about Renaissance Italy during which there was a revived interest in ancient Rome. Why? Because someone had discovered that much of the history, learning and culture of ancient Rome that the world had thought we had lost was in fact preserved in the muslim library at alexandria.

Ohhh really...  I made the point ,that Muslims did indeed save knowledge from loss in the past...  how bigoted of me...  I learnt it at school, and much more as well.

Everything form literature to how to make concrete was preserved there for all mankind. That alone leaves me breathless with gratitude and admiration, to say nothing of course about algebra and the arabic number system to name a few. Its absurd to argue who contributed more and even more absurd to be so blinded by bigotry to believe that the middle east contributed very little, IMO.      

So now you are telling mothra that he/she is absurd and bigoted then eh.  Oh goody, and I never made the point that Islam/Muslims/Arabs/Moorshave not made major contributions to civilization...  I don't call you a bigot for that, or for lying about me but I do call you an immature liar and a troll for doing so.  As for YOUR opinion, when it comes to me what I believe and  actually say, it ain't worth a plug nickel.
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Reply #142 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

Well I've never said that so like I said you need to grow a brain.
You link even posts so-called inventions from the 1600s...  hardly the modern world eh. Grin Grin Grin




Well i wasn't talking to you was i? Boy Wonder.

... and the link post inventions over the span of centuries. Many of them being most modern.

Objective facts are hard to digest when you're prejudiced but really, it's all in handy dot points. Not challenging concepts or anything. You should be able to stumble your way through it.

Go you.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Reply #143 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:40pm
 
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

Well I've never said that so like I said you need to grow a brain.
You link even posts so-called inventions from the 1600s...  hardly the modern world eh. Grin Grin Grin




Well i wasn't talking to you was i? Boy Wonder.

... and the link post inventions over the span of centuries. Many of them being most modern.

Objective facts are hard to digest when you're prejudiced but really, it's all in handy dot points. Not challenging concepts or anything. You should be able to stumble your way through it.

Go you.


Troll...  do read what links you post b4 commenting...
Don't assume people are dumber or less educated than you.

Stop wasting everyone's time.
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Reply #144 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:14pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:40pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

Well I've never said that so like I said you need to grow a brain.
You link even posts so-called inventions from the 1600s...  hardly the modern world eh. Grin Grin Grin




Well i wasn't talking to you was i? Boy Wonder.

... and the link post inventions over the span of centuries. Many of them being most modern.

Objective facts are hard to digest when you're prejudiced but really, it's all in handy dot points. Not challenging concepts or anything. You should be able to stumble your way through it.

Go you.


Troll...  do read what links you post b4 commenting...
Don't assume people are dumber or less educated than you.

Stop wasting everyone's time.


Grendel.....who was the bloke who said this......

Quote:
I am no doubt older, wiser and better educated than both of, you.....


Was that you making the very assumption you deny of others?  Was it?
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Reply #145 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:18pm
 
Trolling again eh Aussie...
so what's new for you eh?

I'm willing to bet I'm correct.
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Reply #146 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:22pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 5:55pm:
More apologetics and ignorance from the morally bankrupt apologists.

The Library of Alexandria was hardly a muslim library when it was built in the 3rd century BC,when did $Profit Mo invent Islam?
In 642 AD when muslims conquered Egypt they burnt the library down.

Diophantus wrote Arithmetica which contained far more complex Algebra than any muslim works a few hundred years later,Diophantus is called the father of Algebra.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus

Dubai built their first concrete building around 1960,when did the Italians invent concrete,how much concrete would Dubai have today if they had n oil money to pay foreigners to build stuff?

Apart from oil and Islam the middle east contributes nothing to modern society,Cyrus the great abolished slavery around 530BC it returned when Islam conquered Persia,$Profit Mo was telling muslims not to bury their daughters alive when Persia was ruled by a woman.

Islam has been a major setback for the middle east,look at the sectarian wars between sunni and shia that have been going on for over 1400 years.


Apology accepted. You weren't to know. You do know the Renaissance started about 800 years after islam was established. As for the doco I mentioned I believe now that it was about the Greek classics.  This is what wikipedia says under the title Transmission of the Greek Classics" (look it up)

The introduction of Greek philosophy and science into the culture of the Latin West in the Middle Ages was an event that transformed the intellectual life of Western Europe.It consisted of the discovery of many original works.. Greek manuscripts have been maintained in the Greek speaking world in Constantinople, Armenia, Syria, and Alexandria....

Arab translations and commentary - Arab logicians had inherited Greek ideas after their invasion of southern portions of the Byzantine Empire. Their translations and commentaries on these ideas worked their way through the Arab West into Spain and Sicily, which became important centers for this transmission of ideas. This work of translation from Islamic culture, though largely unplanned and disorganized, constituted one of the greatest transmissions of ideas in history.


Abbasids

The main period of translation was during Abbasid rule. The 2nd Abassid Caliph Al-Mansur moved the capital from Damascus to Baghdad. Here found the great Persian Library with texts containing both Greek Classical texts as well as texts from ancient India. Al-Mansur ordered this rich fund of world literature translated into Arabic. Under al-Mansur and by his orders, translations were made from Greek, Syriac, and Persian, the Syriac and Persian books being themselves translations from Greek or Sanskrit.

Owing to the legacy of the 6th century King of Persia, Anushirvan (Chosroes I) the Just had introducing many Greek ideas into his kingdom. Aided by this knowledge and juxtaposition of beliefs, the Abassids considered it valuable to look at Islam with Greek eyes, and to look at the Greeks with Islamic eyes.[18] Abassid philosophers also pressed the idea that Islam had from the very beginning stressed the gathering of knowledge as important to the religion. These new lines of thought allowed the work of amassing and translating Greek ideas to expand as it never before had.


You can get the rest I dont have much space.    As to the rest of your post

See Wikipedia's article on Roman concrete if you doubt that they had concrete.   

As to algebra Wikipedia says "Much early work in algebra, as the Arabic origin of its name suggests, was done in the Near East, by such mathematicians as Omar Khayyam (1048–1131).The first complete arithmetic solution (including zero and negative solutions) to quadratic equations was described by Brahmagupta (an Indian). Later, Arabic and Muslim mathematicians developed algebraic methods to a much higher degree of sophistication. Although Diophantus and the Babylonians used mostly special ad hoc methods to solve equations, Al-Khwarizmi contribution was fundamental. He solved linear and quadratic equations without algebraic symbolism, negative numbers or zero, thus he has to distinguish several types of equations (shame on you for not reproducing this properly).

Your claim that islam has contributed nothing but oil is not only wrong but desperate. A determination to see only what you want to see to satisfy your bigotry. The Europeans have been at each others throats since when? And they embroiled the world in 2 world wars. How long have the Irish catholics and Prods been at it. Like I say, desperate to satisfy your bigotry.      
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Reply #147 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:26pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 8:14pm:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:40pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
mothra wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 2:56pm:
I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

Well I've never said that so like I said you need to grow a brain.
You link even posts so-called inventions from the 1600s...  hardly the modern world eh. Grin Grin Grin




Well i wasn't talking to you was i? Boy Wonder.

... and the link post inventions over the span of centuries. Many of them being most modern.

Objective facts are hard to digest when you're prejudiced but really, it's all in handy dot points. Not challenging concepts or anything. You should be able to stumble your way through it.

Go you.


Troll...  do read what links you post b4 commenting...
Don't assume people are dumber or less educated than you.

Stop wasting everyone's time.


Grendel.....who was the bloke who said this......

Quote:
I am no doubt older, wiser and better educated than both of, you.....


Was that you making the very assumption you deny of others?  Was it?


Grendel.....why do you have standards you expect of others, yet you fail to meet them yourself?
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Reply #148 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 6:38pm:
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:12am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:05pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions.  Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin".  Please!!!! 

Not defensive at all...  factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.
Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh... 
You sir are a fool....  why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in...  you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests.  What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here...  you only prove your own stupidity.

BTW I already answered your crap.
Wassup, didn't get it?  Still don't?
Want me to type more s l o w l y or try from another angle perhaps?
1/ not all Christians are Catholics or belong to Churches with Priests...  do you understand that?   Seems that you don't.
2/ not all people are religious and as such your question really holds no meaning for them. Beyond your ability to comprehend eh.
3/ You keep calling me names and slandering me yet have failed to even once provide evidence that I am in anyway a misogynist.  I actually have a very healthy attraction to and appreciation of women.  progs like yourself it seems just like lying about people who disagree with their pov.  sad and pathetic.
4/ you have no idea about my sexuality and again have provided absolutely no evidence of me condemning in anyway, let alone what you call a Christian way... homosexuality.  BTW not all Christians condemn homosexuality at all.
certainly not a thing I've ever done.

Now I expect more ignoring the facts and strawmen and misquotes and lies from you, but why would a sane person persist carrying on the way you do?
Look I'm happy to leave it to anyone interested to go back and see for themselves whether I'm right that your just being evasive. But I will give you one last chance and then I'm finished with your silly Bart Simpson games. (i) Do you support the ordination of women priests and the right of homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. Now if you don't answer this time I think we can safely conclude that you are just as misogynist and backward as the muslims you're condemning, which i happen to think is pathetic. 
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Reply #149 - May 18th, 2015 at 8:39pm
 
arent ISIS proud of destroying fabulous archeological sites.
what a disgraceful religion.
didnt the taliban blow up some massive statues of the buddha.
Bad karma for those boys  Wink Wink
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