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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation Reply #150 - May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 2:56pm: I agree all religions are bullshit. What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society. What has Islam - a religion - improved your life? How has your life been improved Islamically?
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #151 - May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm

A thought provoking passage written by an Englishman about the current situation in HIS homeland -
Racist - me?
I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is …

There are British Africans, British Chinese, British Asian, British Turks, etc, etc, etc

And then there are just British.,. You know what I mean, plain ole English people that were born here. You can include the Welsh, the Scottish and the people who live off our shores of Great Britain on tiny islands. Yes, we are all true Brits.

The others that live here say the following: :

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'.... White trash......White c--t .... And that's OK..

But when I call you, black person, Spade, Towel head, Sand-black person, Paki, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you.. So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the Muslim Council of Great Britain.

You have Black History Month.

You have swimming pools for Asian women.

You have islamic banks for muslims only.

You have year of the dragon day for chinese people.

If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black Britain or Miss Asia, but any colour can be in the Miss UK .

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships.. You know we'd be racists.

There are over 200 openly proclaimed Muslim only schools in England . Yet if there were 'White schools only', that would be a racist school !.

In the Bradford riots and Toxteth riots, you believed that you were standing-up for your race and rights. If we stood-up for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

We fly our flag, we are racists. If we celebrate St.George's or Australia day we are racists.

You can fly your flag and it’s called diversity. You celebrate your cultures and it’s called multiculturalism.

You rob us, carjack us, and rape our daughters. But, when a white police officer arrests a black gang member or restrains an Asian drug dealer running from the law and
posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud.... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!

BEING PROUD TO BE WHITE! It's not a crime, YET... But getting very close!

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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

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Reply #152 - May 18^th, 2015 at 8:46pm

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

What has Islam - a religion - improved your life?
How has your life been improved Islamically?

I tell you what, why don't you re-state those questions in an intelligible way.

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Reply #153 - May 18^th, 2015 at 9:03pm

aquascoot wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

arent ISIS proud of destroying fabulous archeological sites.
what a disgraceful religion.
didnt the taliban blow up some massive statues of the buddha.
Bad karma for those boys Wink

Indeed, all very terrible things. Now from that is it logical to conclude that all of islam contributed nothing to human development over the centuries. Is it a sensible approach to now go around vilifying muslims for being misogynist when we ourselves harbour seriously misogynist attitudes and habits. How many women are bashed to death each week in this country by their male partners and Grendel then parades himself as holier then thou in this forum. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye". Someone famous said that. I can't recall who.

The cartoon made a valid point. We can't let hot heads like Grendel and Soren talk us into persecuting all muslims for the sins of fanatical muslims just as we cant tolerate christians or jews being persecuted. You really do need to wonder what Grendel would have been doing on Kristallnacht if raised in germany and/or austria at the relevant time.

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Reply #154 - May 18^th, 2015 at 9:06pm

mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 10:59am:

Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 10:08am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 10:52pm:

Grendel wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm:

You people really do need to seek help.
You are what is known as the "useful-idiots" of the world.

As told by a Useless-Idiot of this world.

Got nothing again I see...
Try discussing todays world and not the distant past eh. There a good chappy... Cheesy

You miss the point old chap. The point of the video was to show how ridiculous it is to be scared of foreign impacts on your day too day life...and how easily that fear is generated by propaganda the media.

If we were to watch a video of contributions of Muslim world to our society, it would go for considerably longer.

feel free to list the islamic contributions to our society over the last 500 years.

there is a thread on extremism exposed for it, add their accomplishments to there.

Faaaaaar too many to list.

Here is a handy link for you:

http://islam.wikia.com/wiki/Inventions_in_the_modern_Islamic_world

I had a look at your link and I am immensely relieved to report that you are still complete out of your mind, crediting such stupid guff.

Garage rock and punk rock: Garage rock [20] and punk rock [21] are largely derived from the surf rock genre pioneered by Dick Dale, who in turn was inspired by the Arabic music of his Lebanese uncle.

Chicken tikka: This dish originated in the Punjab region of the Indian subcontinent, among the Hindkowans of Peshawar, in modern-day Pakistan.

Steam engine, steam turbine, impulse steam turbine: In 1551, Taqi al-Din invented the first impulse steam turbine and described the first practical applications for it as a prime mover for rotating a spit, predating Giovanni Branca's later impulse steam turbine from 1629. Al-Din described his invention in his book, Al-Turuq al-saniyya fi al-alat al-ruhaniyya (The Sublime Methods of Spiritual Machines), completed in 1551 AD (959 AH).[34]

Submarine: On October 1, 1720, the Ottoman dockyard architect Ibrahim Efendi invented a submarine called the tahtelbahir. The Ottoman writer Seyyid Vehbi, in his Surname-i-Humayun, compared this submarine to an alligator. He recorded that during the circumcision ceremony for Sultan Ahmed III's sons, "the alligator-like submarine slowly emerged on the water and moved slowly to the sultan, and after staying on the sea for half an hour, submerged in the sea again to the great surprise of the public; then emerged one hour later, with five people walking outside the mouth of this alligator-like submarine, with trays of rice and zerde (a dish of sweetened rice) on their heads." He explained the technical information concerning the submarine "submerging in the sea and the crew being able to breath through pipes while under the sea".[50]

Existentialism and existence precedes essence: In the early 17th century, the Persian philosopher, Mulla Sadra, founded the school oftranscendent theosophy and developed the concept of existence precedes essence.[53] His work bought "a new philosophical insight in dealing with the nature of reality" and created "a major transition from essentialism to existentialism" in Islamic philosophy, several centuries before this occurred in Western philosophy

Banana bioplastic: In 2013, 16 year-old Turkish female inventor Elif Bilgin discovered how to recycle banana waste as bioplastic. [51]

Human Development Index and Human Development Report: In 1990, the Pakistani economist Mahbub ul Haq developed the Human Development Index. He also founded the Human Development Report that same year.
Muslims countries are notoriously poor performers on these indices, so old Mahbub had to be an apostate, no?

Websites like this are sad testaments to Islam's enduring inferiority complex and seething resentment for it.

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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #155 - May 19^th, 2015 at 4:58pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 9:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

arent ISIS proud of destroying fabulous archeological sites.
what a disgraceful religion.
didnt the taliban blow up some massive statues of the buddha.
Bad karma for those boys Wink

Indeed, all very terrible things. Now from that is it logical to conclude that all of islam contributed nothing to human development over the centuries. Is it a sensible approach to now go around vilifying muslims for being misogynist when we ourselves harbour seriously misogynist attitudes and habits. How many women are bashed to death each week in this country by their male partners and Grendel then parades himself as holier then thou in this forum.

You rang Spartacrap? You need to stop obsessing and lying about me. libel is a crime.

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye". Someone famous said that. I can't recall who.

It was Jesus... oh dear...

The cartoon made a valid point. We can't let hot heads like Grendel and Soren talk us into persecuting all muslims for the sins of fanatical muslims just as we cant tolerate christians or jews being persecuted.

You rang again Spartacrap... when will you learn. Now your slandering Soren too. I guess the fact you are also being a world class hypocrite has also escaped you eh.

You really do need to wonder what Grendel would have been doing on Kristallnacht if raised in germany and/or austria at the relevant time.

Oh dear now we have the coup de grace... the NAZI SLURRRRRR.... sad pathetic, wrong and totally immature...TROLL

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Reply #156 - May 19^th, 2015 at 5:02pm

Grendel wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 4:58pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 9:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

arent ISIS proud of destroying fabulous archeological sites.
what a disgraceful religion.
didnt the taliban blow up some massive statues of the buddha.
Bad karma for those boys Wink

Indeed, all very terrible things. Now from that is it logical to conclude that all of islam contributed nothing to human development over the centuries. Is it a sensible approach to now go around vilifying muslims for being misogynist when we ourselves harbour seriously misogynist attitudes and habits. How many women are bashed to death each week in this country by their male partners and Grendel then parades himself as holier then thou in this forum.

You rang Spartacrap? You need to stop obsessing and lying about me. libel is a crime.

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye". Someone famous said that. I can't recall who.

It was Jesus... oh dear...

The cartoon made a valid point. We can't let hot heads like Grendel and Soren talk us into persecuting all muslims for the sins of fanatical muslims just as we cant tolerate christians or jews being persecuted.

You rang again Spartacrap... when will you learn. Now your slandering Soren too. I guess the fact you are also being a world class hypocrite has also escaped you eh.

You really do need to wonder what Grendel would have been doing on Kristallnacht if raised in germany and/or austria at the relevant time.

Oh dear now we have the coup de grace... the NAZI SLURRRRRR.... sad pathetic, wrong and totally immature...TROLL

'Shirley you jest.'

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Reply #157 - May 19^th, 2015 at 5:08pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

Grendel wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

Grendel wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:05pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 10:51pm:

Grendel wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 6:48pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Grendel wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Still posting nonsense eh Karnal... I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes

Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes

Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions. Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin". Please!!!!

Not defensive at all... factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.

Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh...
You sir are a fool.... why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in... you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests. What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here... you only prove your own stupidity.

BTW I already answered your crap.
Wassup, didn't get it? Still don't?
Want me to type more s l o w l y or try from another angle perhaps?
1/ not all Christians are Catholics or belong to Churches with Priests... do you understand that? Seems that you don't.
2/ not all people are religious and as such your question really holds no meaning for them. Beyond your ability to comprehend eh.
3/ You keep calling me names and slandering me yet have failed to even once provide evidence that I am in anyway a misogynist. I actually have a very healthy attraction to and appreciation of women. progs like yourself it seems just like lying about people who disagree with their pov. sad and pathetic.
4/ you have no idea about my sexuality and again have provided absolutely no evidence of me condemning in anyway, let alone what you call a Christian way... homosexuality. BTW not all Christians condemn homosexuality at all.
certainly not a thing I've ever done.

Now I expect more ignoring the facts and strawmen and misquotes and lies from you, but why would a sane person persist carrying on the way you do?

Look I'm happy to leave it to anyone interested to go back and see for themselves whether I'm right that your just being evasive. But I will give you one last chance and then I'm finished with your silly Bart Simpson games. (i) Do you support the ordination of women priests and the right of homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. Now if you don't answer this time I think we can safely conclude that you are just as misogynist and backward as the muslims you're condemning, which i happen to think is pathetic.

I'm happy to leave it to the more sensible and less dense here too.
What is it that causes you such a problem to understand simple sentences?
let me try one last time to enlighten you with as few words as possible.

One last time then for the Uber Dummy...
I don't care if priests are male or female even though priestess would be the appropriate term.
I don't care if one has homosexual proclivities/preferences... it's their business not mine.

Now you really do need to stop being an immature prat and continually lying.
If you want to see PATHETIC, look in the mirror or read your posts.

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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #158 - May 19^th, 2015 at 5:44pm

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

What has Islam - a religion - improved your life?
How has your life been improved Islamically?

Why, Chicken Tikka, of course.

There’s no need to be jealous, old chap. We also love your delish stool cheese from the old country.

Miam miam, no?

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Reply #159 - May 19^th, 2015 at 6:04pm

Karnal wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

mothra wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

I agree all religions are bullshit.

What i don't agree with is that Muslims have contributed nothing nor do they contribute anything to society.

What has Islam - a religion - improved your life?
How has your life been improved Islamically?

Why, Chicken Tikka, of course.

Well, apart from the chicken tikka, what have the Muslims ever done for us - other than claiming an Indian dish as Koranically inspired, passing hindu numbers off as their own invention and noticing their goats to be unusually skittish in the coffee bushes (they would not stand still as the sun went down, as it were).

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