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Reply #75 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:12am  
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:05pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions.  Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin".  Please!!!! 

Not defensive at all...  factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.
Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh... 
You sir are a fool....  why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in...  you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests.  What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here...  you only prove your own stupidity.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #76 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:14am  
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:32pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:27pm:
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:13pm:
I've hardly ever voted Liberal on any of the 3 levels of government...  how about YOU... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
and YES, I'm a swinging voter.
Not a rusted-on fool.


True, Grendel. The LNP are quite popular in your neck of the woods, no?

No....  best you stop before you come across as an even bigger fool.




Nats?

Do stop wasting my time Troll. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am  
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.
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Reply #78 - May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm  
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   



There is a difference between role segregation and inequality.  Just as it is possible to have a moral standard that doesnt include all possible options. An all-inclusive moral code is in fact, not moral at all.  Morals are by defintion, standards that exclude some behaviour.
Translation: christian misogyny is morally correct and muslim misogyny is barbaric.  Christians and Muslims have each had their share of barbarism and backwardness over the centuries and each have leapfrogged each other with advancements in thinking.  You're justification for not allowing women priests is every bit as spurious as the justifications by "some" muslims for segregating the sexes. 


if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.  Plus women are in no way segregated.  And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.
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Reply #79 - May 16th, 2015 at 8:46pm  
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am:
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.


You don't, Homo. You just want a white Australia and refuse to leave Western Sydney.
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Reply #80 - May 16th, 2015 at 8:47pm  
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


Ah.
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Reply #81 - May 16th, 2015 at 8:59pm  
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


Ah.


your point - assuming you actually have one at all?
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Reply #82 - May 16th, 2015 at 9:02pm  
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


Ah.


your point - assuming you actually have one at all?


Nothing, Longy. Just ah.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #83 - May 16th, 2015 at 10:53pm  
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:12am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:05pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions.  Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin".  Please!!!! 

Not defensive at all...  factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.
Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh... 
You sir are a fool....  why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in...  you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests.  What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here...  you only prove your own stupidity.
I thought so.  You go on about muslims being misogynists and backward and make excuses for your own misogyny and backwardness.  I've dealt with your bigoted type often enough, whipped up into a frenzy by your shock jock sensationalist news idols who know exactly what buttons to push for an emotional rather then a reasoned response.  You're so easily manipulated and simple, its embarrassing.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #84 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:09pm  
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.


I am well-aquainted with the gender balance of Tony Abbott's cabinet thank you.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #85 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:10pm  
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:14am:
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:32pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:27pm:
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:13pm:
I've hardly ever voted Liberal on any of the 3 levels of government...  how about YOU... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
and YES, I'm a swinging voter.
Not a rusted-on fool.


True, Grendel. The LNP are quite popular in your neck of the woods, no?

No....  best you stop before you come across as an even bigger fool.




Nats?

Do stop wasting my time Troll. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why is it that anyone that disagrees with you is a troll or a fool or a basket full of other ad homs that you dislike applied to you? All the while you ask others to apologise for misrepresenting you and nary a word when you do the same? The only fair and open minded personage amongst us. Yet you do not see why you come across as a dick.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #86 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:18pm  
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   



There is a difference between role segregation and inequality.  Just as it is possible to have a moral standard that doesnt include all possible options. An all-inclusive moral code is in fact, not moral at all.  Morals are by defintion, standards that exclude some behaviour.
Translation: christian misogyny is morally correct and muslim misogyny is barbaric.  Christians and Muslims have each had their share of barbarism and backwardness over the centuries and each have leapfrogged each other with advancements in thinking.  You're justification for not allowing women priests is every bit as spurious as the justifications by "some" muslims for segregating the sexes. 


if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.  Plus women are in no way segregated.  And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.
But what you conveniently do is compare extremist muslims with moderate christians. If you compared apples with apples you would find very little difference between extremist christians and extremist muslims and moderate christians and moderate muslims.  The fact that some christian sects allow women pastors and others do not (and the other 2 christian faiths just happen to be the major christian faiths) simply verifies my point. And as to your segregation point just because the two religions are misogynistic in different ways doesn't mean they are not both misogynist in their respective ways.  From what I've seen and read i think its absurd to suggest that christianity and islam are any more or less prone to barbarity, misogeny and backwardness. They're both as bad as each other. 
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #87 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:31pm  
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   



There is a difference between role segregation and inequality.  Just as it is possible to have a moral standard that doesnt include all possible options. An all-inclusive moral code is in fact, not moral at all.  Morals are by defintion, standards that exclude some behaviour.
Translation: christian misogyny is morally correct and muslim misogyny is barbaric.  Christians and Muslims have each had their share of barbarism and backwardness over the centuries and each have leapfrogged each other with advancements in thinking.  You're justification for not allowing women priests is every bit as spurious as the justifications by "some" muslims for segregating the sexes. 


if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.  Plus women are in no way segregated.  And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


So there is a difference between role segregation and inequality? Can you explain that a bit more clearly for me? Where's the line?
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Reply #88 - May 16th, 2015 at 11:55pm  
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am:
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.


You don't, Homo. You just want a white Australia and refuse to leave Western Sydney.
I dont want a white Australia, skin colour is irrelevant. Its culture which counts, not biology.
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Reply #89 - May 17th, 2015 at 2:05am  
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:55pm:
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am:
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.


You don't, Homo. You just want a white Australia and refuse to leave Western Sydney.
I dont want a white Australia, skin colour is irrelevant. Its culture which counts, not biology.


Now now, Homo, we all know culture conveniently follows skin colour. You’ve been banging on about the inferior races for years.

I do hope you’re not going all PC on us..All Homos, Sparkys, Shakeys, Rhinos, etc, practice segregation. It’s all they post about.
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