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Reply #90 - May 17th, 2015 at 2:17am
 
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 2:05am:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:55pm:
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am:
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.


You don't, Homo. You just want a white Australia and refuse to leave Western Sydney.
I dont want a white Australia, skin colour is irrelevant. Its culture which counts, not biology.


Now now, Homo, we all know culture conveniently follows skin colour. You’ve been banging on about the inferior races for years.

I do hope you’re not going all PC on us..All Homos, Sparkys, Shakeys, Rhinos, etc, practice segregation. It’s all they post about.

I see. you silly old bugger. Im not a reincarnation of a sock puppet. Wondered what all the homo and western sydney thing was about. And culture doesnt conveniently follow skin colour. You are into the sherry bottle a little too much I think = Stupid comment. the Arabs have some of the most abhorrent cultural practises in the world and they are white. Indian culture is also abhorrent in many ways and they are generally although not always dark skinned. Nothing to do with skin colour, when you see a black man, i see a man. now, anything else to make yourself look stupid over? ive seen some of your posts, very rare but you are capable of launching an intelligent post or rebuttal. Maybe lay off the booze a little.
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #91 - May 17th, 2015 at 2:22am
 
rhino wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 2:17am:
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 2:05am:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:55pm:
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31am:
mothra wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Oh i seeeeeeeee.

Because one lecture at one uni did a stupid thing, this means "Muslim Australia".

Of course. Baby out with the bath water and all that.
wow, you are naive, all Muslims practise segregation.


You don't, Homo. You just want a white Australia and refuse to leave Western Sydney.
I dont want a white Australia, skin colour is irrelevant. Its culture which counts, not biology.


Now now, Homo, we all know culture conveniently follows skin colour. You’ve been banging on about the inferior races for years.

I do hope you’re not going all PC on us..All Homos, Sparkys, Shakeys, Rhinos, etc, practice segregation. It’s all they post about.

I see. you silly old bugger. Im not a reincarnation of a sock puppet. Wondered what all the homo and western sydney thing was about. And culture doesnt conveniently follow skin colour. You are into the sherry bottle a little too much I think = Stupid comment. the Arabs have some of the most abhorrent cultural practises in the world and they are white. Indian culture is also abhorrent in many ways and they are generally although not always dark skinned. Nothing to do with skin colour, when you see a black man, i see a man. now, anything else to make yourself look stupid over? ive seen some of your posts, very rare but you are capable of launching an intelligent post or rebuttal. Maybe lay off the booze a little.


Sorry, have you moved out of Rooty Hill?

I do hope you haven’t moved to a leafy white enclave, Rhino. That would be segregation.

Where have you moved?
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Re: Muslim Australia - disgraceful segregation
Reply #92 - May 17th, 2015 at 3:15am
 
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 2:22am:

Sorry, have you moved out of Rooty Hill?

I do hope you haven’t moved to a leafy white enclave, Rhino. That would be segregation.

Where have you moved?
I live in a middle class multi cultural suburb. Street has 12 houses. 1 vietnamese, i middle eastern, 1 chinese, 1 indonesian. 1 Australian. The rest somewhere in between or overseas European..
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Reply #93 - May 17th, 2015 at 4:18am
 
rhino wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 3:15am:
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 2:22am:

Sorry, have you moved out of Rooty Hill?

I do hope you haven’t moved to a leafy white enclave, Rhino. That would be segregation.

Where have you moved?
I live in a middle class multi cultural suburb. Street has 12 houses. 1 vietnamese, i middle eastern, 1 chinese, 1 indonesian. 1 Australian. The rest somewhere in between or overseas European..


Rich tapestry, eh?

Which suburb?
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Reply #94 - May 17th, 2015 at 10:19am
 
Julius Abbott wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:09pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.


I am well-aquainted with the gender balance of Tony Abbott's cabinet thank you.


why do you think there should be a gender balance or even a gender consideration?  at cabinet level the job qualification is simply best person for the job.  That simple.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #95 - May 17th, 2015 at 10:22am
 
Setanta wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   



There is a difference between role segregation and inequality.  Just as it is possible to have a moral standard that doesnt include all possible options. An all-inclusive moral code is in fact, not moral at all.  Morals are by defintion, standards that exclude some behaviour.
Translation: christian misogyny is morally correct and muslim misogyny is barbaric.  Christians and Muslims have each had their share of barbarism and backwardness over the centuries and each have leapfrogged each other with advancements in thinking.  You're justification for not allowing women priests is every bit as spurious as the justifications by "some" muslims for segregating the sexes. 


if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.  Plus women are in no way segregated.  And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


So there is a difference between role segregation and inequality? Can you explain that a bit more clearly for me? Where's the line?


assuming that is a serious question then the answer is of course not a simple one.  The catholic church for example only has male priests but every other role is open to both sexes. in practical terms that supposed inequality is very slight.  But you try and be a male midwife or a male primary school teacher or male childcare worker.  not impossible, but really hard and even if you get the gig, the pressures against you are enormous.

lets not pretend that every job, every role and every position is equally open to both genders.  Life is never that simple.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #96 - May 17th, 2015 at 10:23am
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 10:22am:
The catholic church for example only has male priests but every other role is open to both sexes.



true, they don't care who they bugger, but they do have an obvious preference for boys
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #97 - May 17th, 2015 at 10:35am
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 10:22am:
Setanta wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   



There is a difference between role segregation and inequality.  Just as it is possible to have a moral standard that doesnt include all possible options. An all-inclusive moral code is in fact, not moral at all.  Morals are by defintion, standards that exclude some behaviour.
Translation: christian misogyny is morally correct and muslim misogyny is barbaric.  Christians and Muslims have each had their share of barbarism and backwardness over the centuries and each have leapfrogged each other with advancements in thinking.  You're justification for not allowing women priests is every bit as spurious as the justifications by "some" muslims for segregating the sexes. 


if you cannot see the difference in the scale of this inequality then no one can help you.  Plus women are in no way segregated.  And with the singular exception of the catholic/anglican chuches, women are head pastors already and have been for many decades.


So there is a difference between role segregation and inequality? Can you explain that a bit more clearly for me? Where's the line?


assuming that is a serious question then the answer is of course not a simple one.  The catholic church for example only has male priests but every other role is open to both sexes. in practical terms that supposed inequality is very slight.  But you try and be a male midwife or a male primary school teacher or male childcare worker.  not impossible, but really hard and even if you get the gig, the pressures against you are enormous.

lets not pretend that every job, every role and every position is equally open to both genders.  Life is never that simple.
Just out of interest I can understand why a man will find it harder to get a job in child care (men don't have as good a record as women when it comes to pedophilia) but pray tell what qualifies a man over a woman to be a priest? 
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Reply #98 - May 17th, 2015 at 11:12am
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 10:53pm:
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:12am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:05pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Still posting nonsense eh Karnal...  I do wish you'd stop wasting everyone's time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Most of us know about Islam these days and most of us aren't in denial. Roll Eyes
Do you think women should be priests and that homosexuals having sex with members of the same sex are committing a sin. I don't know what your answer will be I'm just interested.   

Why?
What's your point?
Not all Christian religions have priests...
What's your definition of a Sin?
What do they have to do with this topic?

Why so defensive? If your so concerned about muslim misogyny and backwardness I don't understand why you cant jump to your feet and proudly answer "Yes" I have no objections to women being priests and to homosexuals enjoying homosexual sex with each other without condemnation by our christian religions.  Instead I get evasive answers like "define what you mean by sin".  Please!!!! 

Not defensive at all...  factual.
I think you'll find islam kills homosexuals.
Yes yes I'm sure there are many muslims that kill and countenance the killing of homosexuals just as there are many christians who do so. Now. Were you going to jump to your feet and prove to us that your not a misogynist in your way and declare your support for the ordination of women priests and scream your support for homosexuals to enjoy homosexual sex with each other without christian condemnation. It really is a simple thing to do if you believe it.

Oh dear still in denial eh... 
You sir are a fool....  why should I jump up an support things I either have no interest in or don't believe in...  you don't see me jumping up and supporting male priests why should I jump up and support female priests.  What makes you think I have any fanatical religious beliefs or extremist beliefs re the relationships between men and women or any hatred of women or men...
You can keep lying about me and creating strawmen like those other fool progs here...  you only prove your own stupidity.
I thought so.  You go on about muslims being misogynists and backward and make excuses for your own misogyny and backwardness. 
Liar liar pants on fire....  now you've stooped to complete dishonesty.

I've dealt with your bigoted type often enough, whipped up into a frenzy by your shock jock sensationalist news idols who know exactly what buttons to push for an emotional rather then a reasoned response. 
More name calling and lying.
You're so easily manipulated and simple, its embarrassing.
Personally I think you are an embarrassment.  You cant even admit you lied and continue to do so.  You can't even address what I actually said.

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Reply #99 - May 17th, 2015 at 11:16am
 
Setanta wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:10pm:
Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2015 at 11:14am:
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:32pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:27pm:
Karnal wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2015 at 11:13pm:
I've hardly ever voted Liberal on any of the 3 levels of government...  how about YOU... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
and YES, I'm a swinging voter.
Not a rusted-on fool.


True, Grendel. The LNP are quite popular in your neck of the woods, no?

No....  best you stop before you come across as an even bigger fool.




Nats?

Do stop wasting my time Troll. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why is it that anyone that disagrees with you is a troll or a fool or a basket full of other ad homs that you dislike applied to you? All the while you ask others to apologise for misrepresenting you and nary a word when you do the same? The only fair and open minded personage amongst us. Yet you do not see why you come across as a dick.

Why don't you recognize the facts?
because you just pop in every now and then and attack people you disagree with, much like the Trolls here.
The facts are they are trolls and they do over use ad hom and they do lie.
I wouldn't say it if they didn't.
As for being a dick...  take a look in the mirror Troll.
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Reply #101 - May 17th, 2015 at 1:10pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 1:00pm:


Brilliant  Smiley
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Reply #102 - May 17th, 2015 at 5:57pm
 
Its time wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 1:10pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 1:00pm:


Brilliant  Smiley



Yep. Square hit. Right between the eyes.
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Reply #103 - May 17th, 2015 at 9:42pm
 
You people really do need to seek help.
You are what is known as the "useful-idiots" of the world.
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Reply #104 - May 17th, 2015 at 10:52pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 17th, 2015 at 9:42pm:
You people really do need to seek help.
You are what is known as the "useful-idiots" of the world.
As told by a Useless-Idiot of this world. 
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