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May 18th, 2015 at 7:18pm
 
QUEENSLAND'S government has brought back strong pro-union policies in the public sector, which the opposition sees as creeping union control over the state. 
 
PREMIER Annastacia Palaszczuk says the policies, uploaded to a government website last week without any other notification, will make workplaces safer.

Government agencies are required to encourage rather than "passively accept" union membership and activities.

New government employees will be handed a union application form and information about their relevant union upon induction.

Unions will also be handed the details of all new public servants.

Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

"The unions are there to stand up for workers in this state," she said.

But Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg said the revisions showed the government was increasingly beholden to the unions.

"What we're seeing is a situation where Labor is having to pay the piper," he said.

"Those that supported them in government are going to have a free and unfettered reign in impugning the independence of the public sector."

Under the policy change union delegates will also be allowed to use state resources for union activities and paid education leave will be granted delegates studying industrial relations.

The premier strongly denied Queensland's increasingly vocal unions had requested the changes.

"No, not at all," Ms Palaszczuk said.

"But there have been discussions over the years when we were in opposition and we believe it's the right thing to do."

Mr Springborg also criticised Labor for posting the document on a website without any other notification.

"There was no media or fanfare around the release of this policy like we've seen with the other 'get-squares' this Labor government has rolled out against the former LNP government," he said.

"Queenslanders deserve better than a sneaky Labor government beholden to union bosses."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/qld-encourages-unions-in-pub...
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Reply #1 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:24pm
 
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QUEENSLAND'S government has brought back strong pro-union policies in the public sector, which the opposition sees as creeping union control over the state.


The only surprise there is that it took so long to happen.


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Unions will also be handed the details of all new public servants.


This is just wrong and will lead to Unions pressuring new employees to sign membership forms.


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Under the policy change union delegates will also be allowed to use state resources for union activities and paid education leave will be granted delegates studying industrial relations.


This is also wrong - taxpayers should not be forced to pay for Union propaganda activities/materials.


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Mr Springborg also criticised Labor for posting the document on a website without any other notification.


That is typical Labor for you.


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"Queenslanders deserve better than a sneaky Labor government beholden to union bosses." "There was no media or fanfare around the release of this policy like we've seen with the other 'get-squares' this Labor government has rolled out against the former LNP government," he said.


Well, they get what they deserve and they voted for this mob of Union hacks. Now they have to deal with the consequences, no matter how bad they might be.
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Reply #2 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:32pm
 
Gee......who'd a thunk it was evah possible that a Labor Government would encourage union membership?

Bizarre isn't it!
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Reply #3 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm
 
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.
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Reply #4 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:39pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.


How did the Liberals attack workers rights? Unions weren't banned from government buildings. Employees weren't banned from joining a Union. What Labor is doing is effectively trying to pressure workers (new and current) into joining a Union due to plummeting membership numbers.
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Reply #5 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm
 
When you give up the standard of living that the unions have given you we may take you serious .
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Reply #6 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
Gee......who'd a thunk it was evah possible that a Labor Government would encourage union membership?

Bizarre isn't it!


Encourage, eh? Yeah - like, "Okay, we can't give Tom the promotion - it's got to go to Harry." "Why?" "Because Harry's a paid-up member of the PSU, while Tom refuses to join!"
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Reply #7 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.


How did the Liberals attack workers rights? Unions weren't banned from government buildings. Employees weren't banned from joining a Union. What Labor is doing is effectively trying to pressure workers (new and current) into joining a Union due to plummeting membership numbers.


So you say.  How about you say how?
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Reply #8 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
Its time wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
When you give up the standard of living that the unions have given you we may take you serious .


What a load of crap. The Unions gave me nothing. I went to University, studied hard, got my qualification, a job, worked hard and saved hard for my lifestyle. The Unions can go jump if they expect a thankyou from me - I got where I am today all by myself.
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Reply #9 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
Gee......who'd a thunk it was evah possible that a Labor Government would encourage union membership?

Bizarre isn't it!


Encourage, eh? Yeah - like, "Okay, we can't give Tom the promotion - it's got to go to Harry." "Why?" "Because Harry's a paid-up member of the PSU, while Tom refuses to join!"


So.....you really reckon Palaszczuk makes that sort of decision?
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Reply #10 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.


How did the Liberals attack workers rights? Unions weren't banned from government buildings. Employees weren't banned from joining a Union. What Labor is doing is effectively trying to pressure workers (new and current) into joining a Union due to plummeting membership numbers.


So you say.  How about you say how?


"Unions will also be handed the details of all new public servants." Why would you do that if not to pressure new employees to join a Union?
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Reply #11 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:47pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.


How did the Liberals attack workers rights? Unions weren't banned from government buildings. Employees weren't banned from joining a Union. What Labor is doing is effectively trying to pressure workers (new and current) into joining a Union due to plummeting membership numbers.


So you say.  How about you say how?


"Unions will also be handed the details of all new public servants." Why would you do that if not to pressure new employees to join a Union?


So.....if I am Mary working in the Pharmacy at the Nambour Hospital, and I am am Union member, what the hell is so wrong with me telling the Union, 'Oh, an idiot called Armpit began today at work.  Maybe, you could invite her into the Union.'
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Reply #12 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:49pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:42pm:
Its time wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
When you give up the standard of living that the unions have given you we may take you serious .


What a load of crap. The Unions gave me nothing. I went to University, studied hard, got my qualification, a job, worked hard  and saved hard for my lifestyle. The Unions can go jump if they expect a thankyou from me - I got where I am today all by myself.


Geez you must be the only person that relinquinshed his penalty rates , weekends, sick leave and a plethora of other conditions and entitlements , but we both know you did no such thing , or did you think it was the company owners that gave this all to you out of the genorosity of their hearts
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Reply #13 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:55pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:42pm:
Its time wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
When you give up the standard of living that the unions have given you we may take you serious .


What a load of crap. The Unions gave me nothing. I went to University, studied hard, got my qualification, a job, worked hard and saved hard for my lifestyle. The Unions can go jump if they expect a thankyou from me - I got where I am today all by myself.


People were doing that when they had to work 60 hours a week and had 1 weeks leave, didn't get paid when sick and didn't get reasonable pay rates or increases at a time where the workplace was a dangerous place to work.
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Reply #14 - May 18th, 2015 at 7:56pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:47pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:41pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 18th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Ms Palaszcuzk says the provisions existed for at least a decade before the previous Liberal National Party government came to power.

The Liberals attack workers rights and unions, then Labor put the pendulum back to the middle ground.


How did the Liberals attack workers rights? Unions weren't banned from government buildings. Employees weren't banned from joining a Union. What Labor is doing is effectively trying to pressure workers (new and current) into joining a Union due to plummeting membership numbers.


So you say.  How about you say how?


"Unions will also be handed the details of all new public servants." Why would you do that if not to pressure new employees to join a Union?


So.....if I am Mary working in the Pharmacy at the Nambour Hospital, and I am am Union member, what the hell is so wrong with me telling the Union, 'Oh, an idiot called Armpit began today at work.  Maybe, you could invite her into the Union.'


That's not what they mean and you know it (or ought to). This directive will mean government departments will effectively become recruiting offices for Unions and will have to pass on the personal details of new employees to Union officials.
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