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Reply #45 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:20am
 
Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
I've never stated a desire to be an "Islamic", Soren, so I have no idea where you're getting that idea from.   I find your entire Islamophobia distasteful and foolish in extremis.   It is based on rank Islamophobia, rather than common sense.   It's just easier for you to subscribe to the thinking of the Terrorists 'cause they've told you what you want to believe.    Roll Eyes

What do you like about Islam, Brain?


It doesn't matter what I like or dislike about Islam, Soren.  Muslims don't deserve to be persecuted for their choice in the matter of worship, any more than Jews/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. do.




As you know full well, it is not their private worship - it is their very public politics and their violence.



If they are breaking the law, then charge them, Soren.  Don't tar all Muslims with the same brush!

Tell me, Soren, should all Jews carry the blame for the death of Christ?  That's your level of thinking on this topic.  For a man who claims to be well educated you are obviously revelling in your ignorance about humanity.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 12:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:20am:
Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
I've never stated a desire to be an "Islamic", Soren, so I have no idea where you're getting that idea from.   I find your entire Islamophobia distasteful and foolish in extremis.   It is based on rank Islamophobia, rather than common sense.   It's just easier for you to subscribe to the thinking of the Terrorists 'cause they've told you what you want to believe.    Roll Eyes

What do you like about Islam, Brain?


It doesn't matter what I like or dislike about Islam, Soren.  Muslims don't deserve to be persecuted for their choice in the matter of worship, any more than Jews/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. do.




As you know full well, it is not their private worship - it is their very public politics and their violence.



If they are breaking the law, then charge them, Soren.  Don't tar all Muslims with the same brush!




Opposing Islam's political and social aspects is not persecution.

Snap out of it, bozo.

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Reply #47 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 12:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 4:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 4:10pm:
So, a quote from a pro-Israeli website which in turn is quoting from a submission made by a pro-Israeli "military group" and it condemns Hamas?  How unsurprising, Soren.

Interesting how it doesn't look at the context as to why Hamas might have undertaken these tactics...    Roll Eyes

I'll give you a clue.   It has less to do with a belief in victory over Israel as much as belief in a victory over the PLA, Soren.

Well, if the Gazans, knowing this (Hamas will rocket Israelis to spite the PLO) still elected Hamas then they indeed deserve everything that's coming to them. There is no cure for stupidity.



But I think this is just as much a Brain-y idiotic nonsense as your general theory that Muslims are committing terrorist acts in the West to persuade other Muslims to be more like them.


 I'm basing my knowledge on the writings of Usama bin Laden and a few other members of al Q'aeda. 



Show us where Bin Laden and others said this.

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Reply #48 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 12:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:20am:
Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
I've never stated a desire to be an "Islamic", Soren, so I have no idea where you're getting that idea from.   I find your entire Islamophobia distasteful and foolish in extremis.   It is based on rank Islamophobia, rather than common sense.   It's just easier for you to subscribe to the thinking of the Terrorists 'cause they've told you what you want to believe.    Roll Eyes

What do you like about Islam, Brain?


It doesn't matter what I like or dislike about Islam, Soren.  Muslims don't deserve to be persecuted for their choice in the matter of worship, any more than Jews/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. do.




As you know full well, it is not their private worship - it is their very public politics and their violence.



If they are breaking the law, then charge them, Soren.  Don't tar all Muslims with the same brush!




Opposing Islam's political and social aspects is not persecution.

Snap out of it, bozo.



It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #49 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes

How do I prevent them from worshipping, you eyewateringly stupid, stinking bloody clown??

You are stupider than I thought - and that's saying something.

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Reply #50 - Jun 17th, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes

How do I prevent them from worshipping, you eyewateringly stupid, stinking bloody clown??

You are stupider than I thought - and that's saying something.


I said, "actively seek to prevent them", not that you "prevent them from worshipping", Soren.  My comment suggest an action you are undertaking, your reply suggests you have done it.   It's all about tenses, old fellow.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #51 - Jun 17th, 2015 at 4:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes

How do I prevent them from worshipping, you eyewateringly stupid, stinking bloody clown??

You are stupider than I thought - and that's saying something.


I said, "actively seek to prevent them", not that you "prevent them from worshipping", Soren. 

How so?
Explain.
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Reply #52 - Jun 17th, 2015 at 7:03pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes

How do I prevent them from worshipping, you eyewateringly stupid, stinking bloody clown??

You are stupider than I thought - and that's saying something.


I said, "actively seek to prevent them", not that you "prevent them from worshipping", Soren. 

How so?
Explain.


Through your continued persecution of their beliefs and practices, Soren.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Jun 17th, 2015 at 7:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
It is when you actively seek to prevent them from being able to worship their religion in the manner that they see fit (within the existing laws of course), Soren.    Roll Eyes

How do I prevent them from worshipping, you eyewateringly stupid, stinking bloody clown??

You are stupider than I thought - and that's saying something.


I said, "actively seek to prevent them", not that you "prevent them from worshipping", Soren. 

How so?
Explain.


Through you continued persecution of their beliefs and practices, Soren.   Roll Eyes




How is opposing an ideology or religion persecution? AM I refusing to hire them? Am I denying them the right to wear a beard/niqab/hijab in my business? Do I send their women to the back of the room, away from the men - oh, sorry, doing that is 'cultural sensitivity'.

What have I done to "seek to prevent them" from going to mosque or pray at home or otherwise engage with the religious aspects of Islam? ?

How exactly do I "persecute" them. Which particular individuals do I 'persecute'?  Opposing political Islam is now persecution?  That would be a very neat totalitarian trick, if you could pull it off, Brain.


Do you agree with all their beliefs and practices, Brain?? DO you agree with every Jewish, Christian, Scientologist, Fascist, Stalinist, Maoist belief and practice?

Explain to me the line between VERBAL disagreement and opposition on the one hand (what I do) and persecution,  on the other (what you attribute to me).




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