Soren wrote on Jun 12
th, 2015 at 8:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 12
th, 2015 at 8:24pm:
Intelligence can absolutely be inadmissible - as determined by the court itself. I demonstrated that perfectly.
But thats not the point - the whole point of this is to bypass the courts - otherwise the government wouldn't be trying to come up with a way to strip citizenship that doesn't involve proving something in court now would it? Think about it Soren, use your noggin. If you still want to fap about this - at least do me a favour and before you do - ask yourself why the government wants to do this, and if you can't come up with an answer that doesn't include "avoiding having to prove something in court" - then best to just be quiet.
You are talking crap.You are ignorant of what you are talking about.
Crappity crap.
There is no 'bypassing the courts' by the executive in the Westminster system, bozo. Separation of powers.
I don't know what it will take for it to sink in. We are not in Ummah-land any more, Toto.
Oh, old boy, your knowledge of the separation of powers is rather Teutonic, to say the least.
All that has to happen to bypass the courts is legislation, which is what courts rule on. The only form of law that can’t easily be changed by politicians is the constitution, which requires a referendum.
We don’t have an "executive" branch in the Westminster system. You’ve been watching too many episodes of the West Wing. Australia is still a constitutional monarchy, not a republic. We have a quaint old thing called the Crown.
The separation of powers is simply about the division between these powers, not their application. There are ministerial powers for a whole range of government functions, many of which can’t be contested in court - or which won’t necessarily be heard by a court if a civil claim is lodged.
Dutton is seeking to bypass the courts, as G asserts. All that needs to happen to do this is legislation passed by both houses and the signature of the Queen’s representative.
This is one reason why the US has found it impossible to pass similar laws to the UK, which has passed legislation to cancel the citizenship of dual nationals. The US does not use the Westminster System and has much stronger constitutional protection for its citizens.
Best to stick to civilisation and your contents, dear boy.