Pho Huc wrote on Aug 29
th, 2015 at 9:20pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29
th, 2015 at 8:11pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 28
th, 2015 at 12:50pm:
Agreed, human rights are a fictional luxury,abandoned at the drop of a hat
Thats what I call fake morals and its rife in the west.
But just because people are hypocritical about human rights, doesn't mean they can't really exist.
Could you explain what you mean about fake morals in this instance?
I think G is referring to FD as the standard bearer of wishy washy Western morals. These morals include the invasion of other countries to bring them what we call Freeeedom (TM). Freeeedom includes things like tyranny. It's a mixed bag. Mass arrests, torture prisons, the occasional death camp - all practiced alongside the establishment of Western franchises - McDonalds, KFC, Total petrol stations, HSBC, you know the rest.
Sometimes democracy is mentioned, even though no one gets democracy. Democracy is like the Soviet idea of communism - always in the future, just around the corner, waiting for the right social conditions. In Iraq's case, they got a civil war and ISIS. But they did get to demolish that statue of Saddam for Fox News, so it's all good.
For FD, Iraq is the latest South Korea - a country liberated for the purpose of liberal democracy and economic development. The US, of course, brought none of these things to South Korea - Iraq even less so. It's questionable whether FD even believes it himself (he evades the question). But this is what he refers to as the gold standard of Western flag planting. Iraq didn't take to it, but that's their fault. They should have done what South Korea did and stuck a few dictators in power to keep the peace (sorry, established a corrupt, faux democracy). They did? Well yes, but the US had to get rid of that dictator. He didn't like Freeeedom, so Uncle had to put someone in who did. He failed, but what can you do?
In the end, it was the people of Iraq's fault for being Muslims. Muslims never take to Freeeedom. All they had to do was accept Uncle's kind invasion, get over their family members getting shot and blown up all over the place, and abandon Islam. But would they do it? Not on your life. They had to be difficult because Muslims hate Freeeeeeedom, and that's just the way it is.
For FD, such a cynical view of wishy washy Western morals is uniquely Muslim. Just calling them wishy washy gets on FD's nerves no end. Only a Muslim could do it, and if you're not a Muslim you're an apologist.
But does FD really believe all this? That's the question on everybody's lips. We've all asked. He's never replied, other than with a list of never-ending questions - questions coming out of questions, questions turning into questions, questions questions, and not an answer among them.
Why don't you try one, Pho? Try it as an experiment. Ask FD if he's the standard bearer of wishy washy Western morals.
See what question you get back in reply - if you're lucky.