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Reply #120 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:16pm
 
Would you accuse me of lying and slandering your impeccable reputation if I interpreted that post as you claiming it is OK to kill gays so long as you kill a few other people as well?
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Reply #121 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
Would you accuse me of lying and slandering your impeccable reputation if I interpreted that post as you claiming it is OK to kill gays so long as you kill a few other people as well?


Which post, FD? I’m most curious.
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Reply #122 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm
 
FD doesn't need a post - he'll just make up some crap based on some vague recollection of a conversation he had a year ago. Then when he produces the quote that says nothing like what he claimed - he'll simply rely on his tried and true skills of endless obfuscation and staying power - until everyone is too bored to bother any more.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #123 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:42pm
 
I am happy to discuss the interpretation of either of those two posts Gandalf, and I have directly in this thread already. It seems our only choice, given that you refuse to talk about this topic any more and for some reason have resorted to interpreting your own previous vague waffle from last year rather than simply stating your position.

Speaking of obfuscation:

Under what circumstances do you think Muhammed wants you to kill gays?

What would you think of a modern leader who issued an edict to kill people but left it a bit vague who to kill and under what circumstances?

Do you think Muhammed intended people to be confused about who to kill?
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Reply #124 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:43pm
 
The forum search function is terrible.  Try using search terms before writing site:ozpolitic.com in Google. 
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Reply #125 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:48pm
 
There are a few tricks to getting it to work for you.
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Reply #126 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 7:26pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:43pm:
The forum search function is terrible.  Try using search terms before writing site:ozpolitic.com in Google. 


Yes, that’s why FD posts all the quotes he’s referencing in the Wiki.

It’s not that he can’t be bothered finding them, he just doesn’t want you to see them.

FD, you see, is interested in the truth beyond the words. The old boy calls this intelligence and integrity. FD calls it Freeeedom.

The rest of us know the phenomenon as porkie pies. Like the old boy, FD refuses to rule them out. They’re an integral part of what he calls his criticism of Islam.

Remember, sometimes a porkie is just a porkie.
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Reply #127 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 9:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:42pm:
am happy to discuss the interpretation of either of those two posts Gandalf


Oh we know FD - you'll gleefully "discuss" till kingdom come what is a very simple case of outrageous slander until it becomes the most confusing issue in the world. You'll make darn certain that you've thoroughly obfuscated the point beyond all meaning, until everyone's completely confused about what it was we were ever even talking about. Then you'll mark it down as yet another example of a sinister muslim being evasive and tricky - and you'll declare mission accomplished. Thats what you do FD. And the really sad part? You probably don't even realise yourself any more thats what you do.

Perhaps the solution is to get FD 2007 to join in and give his 2 cents worth - what do you think he'd say?
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Reply #128 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 9:56pm
 
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Oh we know FD - you'll gleefully "discuss" till kingdom come what is a very simple case of outrageous slander until it becomes the most confusing issue in the world.


It is only confusing because no matter what quote of yours I find to back up what I say about you, you can find a quote of yourself saying something completely different. Instead of endless arguments about which of the 2014 Gandalfs is the real Gandalf, why don't you just make up your mind on who Muhammed wants you to kill?

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You'll make darn certain that you've thoroughly obfuscated the point beyond all meaning, until everyone's completely confused about what it was we were ever even talking about.


We are talking about killing gays Gandalf. This is only lost on you.

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Then you'll mark it down as yet another example of a sinister muslim being evasive and tricky


Gosh, how on earth can I get away with that?

Have you figured out yet under what circumstances Muhammed wants you to kill gays?

What would you think of a modern leader who issued an edict to kill people but left it a bit vague who to kill and under what circumstances?

Do you think Muhammed intended people to be confused about who to kill?

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and you'll declare mission accomplished


It is hardly accomplished Gandalf. I was thinking of starting a new thread, so you could not accuse me of "tricking" you into participating. I've got some good ideas for the thread title. Want to hear them?
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Reply #129 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 10:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
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Oh we know FD - you'll gleefully "discuss" till kingdom come what is a very simple case of outrageous slander until it becomes the most confusing issue in the world.


It is only confusing because no matter what quote of yours I find to back up what I say about you, you can find a quote of yourself saying something completely different.


That’s true, FD. And they happen to be the same post, no?
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Reply #130 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 10:23pm
 
Do try to keep up Karnal.
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Reply #131 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 11:37pm
 
Thanks, FD, I’ll try.

To summarize,, Gandalf’s saying he wants to kill hommersexuals, both the giver and receiver.

And not just them. Infidels, kuffars, disbelievers, the debauched, idolators, fornicators, hypocrites, Jews,, trecherous Jews, the children of Lot, fellow Moslems, you name it. No one’s safe around G.

I do feel we’re moving on in the discussion, don’t you?
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Reply #132 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:49am
 
Gandalf said a lot of things, none of which make much sense.

You should try asking him.
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Reply #133 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:59am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
Thanks, FD, I’ll try.

To summarize,, Gandalf’s saying he wants to kill hommersexuals, both the giver and receiver.

And not just them. Infidels, kuffars, disbelievers, the debauched, idolators, fornicators, hypocrites, Jews,, trecherous Jews, the children of Lot, fellow Moslems, you name it. No one’s safe around G.

I do feel we’re moving on in the discussion, don’t you?



It's God's plan.

No one is safe - no one gets to go to heaven.
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Reply #134 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:49am:
Gandalf said a lot of things, none of which make much sense.

You should try asking him.


That’s what we do, FD. Again and again and again.

You’re helping G to make much sense, no?

How come when I try asking you, you avoid the question?

I’m curious.
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