freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2015 at 6:24pm:


Gee FD, how did I get dragged into this debate? By you making yet another completely fabricated claim about what muslims say. So yes, that absolutely should be the focus. You obviously don't think its important how you continually make crap up about what muslims say - and thats the problem.

All been covered in the thread you quoted earlier.

You still don't get the issue here do you? Do you acknowledge that you completely fabricated yet another claim about "what muslims say"? Do you see the problem with that serial behaviour and how it undermines your contentions about muslim attitudes?

I dealt with the issue thoroughly in the thread - read the subsequent posts if you are really interested.

Can you at least address the issue here - do you acknowledge the problem problem of continually misrepresenting my position? Saying blatantly fabricated crap from "Gandalf thinks executing gays is an expression of gay pride" to "Gandalf thinks gays should only be executed if they flaunt their sexuality 'mardi gras style'" - are two of the most outrageous lies you have come up with about me FD. And simply dismissing it with "oh but Gandalf refuses to state his position" is not an excuse. You are basically saying my alleged non-posiiton gives you a license to come up with these ridiculous fabrications.

Do you seriously not see the problem with these blatant fabrications to the credibility of your continuous droning arguments about "what muslims think"?

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2015 at 6:47pm:


Its very simple FD - I didn't say that gays should be executed if they flaunt their sexuality "mardi gras style" - in that thread or anywhere else. Not even close. I told you from the beginning that my position, based on my interpretation of the Quranic account of Lut, was clearly articulated in the next post after the one you quoted. You never bothered to check that did you? If you did it would be abundantly clear to you that my opinion on the matter couldn't be more opposed to the posiiton you ascribed to me in this thread.

As predicted, you are using the exact excuse I referred to in my last post: don't know what gandalf is saying, so I'll make up some crap. This wouldn't be an issue if instead of saying "he even suggested that Muhammed's command to kill gay people (both the giver and the receiver) should be limited to gays who flaunt their homosexuality, mardis gras style" - you simply said what you are claiming now - that you are unclear of gandalf's position because of his tapdancing etc.

At least tell me this FD - if you were so confused about my position in that conversation - as you are now claiming - why did you use it to pretend that I held such a clear-cut position on the matter?

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm:


Sorry, I meant to say previous, not next:

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Interesting, I didn't realise they go around murdering, raping and robbing people at the mardi gras. I also didn't realise that that sort of criminality can be explained as mere "flaunting" your sexuality.

So now you know how completely absurd was the position you ascribed to me - do you have any thoughts about the possible problems with this sort of fabricating of things that muslims say - in the process of making such a fuss about how muslims implicate themselves with their own words?

Expert tapdancing FD - do you or don't you acknowledge that you fabricated my position (perhaps inadvertantly) about what I "suggested" should be the right conditions to execute gays?

Yes or no.

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2015 at 6:58pm:


So my position was very confusing, and your memory was hazy? And yet you stated what you claimed was my position so emphatically:

" He even suggested that Muhammed's command to kill gay people (both the giver and the receiver) should be limited to gays who flaunt their homosexuality, mardis gras style"

You don't seem very confused there FD.

And I still can't work out why you chose that post - when the preceding post made it crystal clear that what I suggested was nothing even remotely what you claimed. Here it is again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 10^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:


Do they usually engage in that sort of criminal behaviour at the mardi gras?