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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Gandalf will be able to justfy this. Jun 26^th, 2015 at 11:02pm 27 killed in Tunisia. One decapitated in France. Allah be praised!
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Reply #1 - Jun 26^th, 2015 at 11:50pm

I think it would be hard for Gandalf to justify your jubulation over this, but feel free to do so.

I haven’t read anything about this yet, but I hope your joy serves some kind of higher purpose.

I also hope that if your family are murdered, no one has a chuckle over the internet about it, but that’s just me.

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Reply #2 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 11:37am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 26^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

27 killed in Tunisia. One decapitated in France. Allah be praised!

gandalf won't try to justify those killings.

gandalf will merely insist that those killings are NOT justified, by the 'pure' ISLAM which he [gandalf] follows.

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

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YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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And the example of moslem community leader,

, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

FIRST speaking publicly ------- >

Quote:

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

BUT, NOW LISTEN TO THE EXACT SAME MOSLEM - SPEAKING [PRIVATELY] TO A GROUP OF MOSLEMS ------- >

Quote:

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that

he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

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gandalf's 'brother', Mr Yunus [in Darwin] is another moslem, who is absolutely certain that ISLAM is a peaceful religion.

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"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimin...

EXAMPLE - of a moslem engaging in, a 'peaceful' 'stealth' Jihad, here in Australia, FALSELY promoting ISLAM as a 'peaceful' faith.....

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IMAGE....

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

Mr Yunus is a typical moslem.

Mr Yunus is a typical follower of ISLAM.

And Mr Yunus believes, no, Mr Yunus knows in his own heart, that, ISLAM is a peaceful faith.

Honest!!!

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QUESTION;
How can Australians ever have a peaceful relationship with 'Aussie' moslems, when the moslem community in Australia, hides a malevolent intent towards all Australians who are not moslems ?

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
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The heart of ISLAM is the Koran

[and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gandalf will be able to justfy this. Reply #3 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:28pm You're a classy guy Issue.
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Reply #4 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:30pm

Gandalf's original quote has been removed - as it was an unbecoming comment from a moderator - so i have removed the reproduction of it here

I've never seen Gandalf try and justify terrorism, not one. Just as I've never tried to do it, either. However, that doesn't stop Islamophobes with their "either you're 100% with us or you're 100% agin us," method of thinking attempting to claim otherwise. Roll Eyes

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gandalf will be able to justfy this. Reply #5 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:30pm Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 11:37am: gandalf won't try to justify those killings. gandalf will merely insist that those killings are NOT justified, by the 'pure' ISLAM which he [gandalf] follows. Correct.
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Reply #6 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:30pm:

Gandalf's original quote has been removed - as it was an unbecoming comment from a moderator - so i have removed the reproduction of it here

I've never seen Gandalf try and justify terrorism, not one. Just as I've never tried to do it, either. However, that doesn't stop Islamophobes with their "either you're 100% with us or you're 100% agin us," method of thinking attempting to claim otherwise. Roll Eyes

You have insisted that you have neither the right nor the ability to criticise people from other nations or religions.

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Reply #7 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:16pm

Again, this Tunisian massacre brings to our attention yet another example as to why including Muslims in our immigration policy is fraught with fatal hazard.

The terrorist's father was a Carrier. He is innocent of everything except having passed Islam on to his son - with fatal consequences. If the boy had been born to any other religion this would not have happened.

"Oh! But we're AAAAAALL moderates!!" They cry - and so they may well be, but what of their offspring who have been baptised into the Islamic faith? Can the Moderates guarantee our safety from their sons in future years?

We have 20 would-be Islamic terrorists in our jails right now - and another 150 over there fighting with ISIS.

"OH! But we're AAAALL moderate Muslims!" Their parents wail and sob and throw their arms around.

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Reply #8 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 7:36am

It doesn't matter that the majority are 'Moderate' Muslims.

These so-called Moderate Muslims had absolutely no influence on their terrorist children's attitudes despite bringing them up from the cot in their own homes - and having sent them to nice Western schools where Christian values of tolerance and moderation are taught.

'Moderate' Muslims are Carriers of a cultural infection that can turn deadly with just a little coaxing from Activist Muslims.

A complete halt of any further Muslim immigration is the obvious starting point for sanitising Britain and Australia of this toxic import that has invaded our societies through Carriers of the Islamic religion.

During medieval times it was rats coming over to Britain from across the waters bringing with them the fleas that caused the Black Death, and now, more latterly, it's Muslims arriving in the West with 'Islam' in their cultural baggage for their Western-born children to inherit.

The parents of these murderous Muslim offspring cannot plead themselves to be 'innocent' when the guardianship of their own daughter or son has been so negligent and so lacking in moral instruction that they have spawned murderous religious psychotics.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Gandalf will be able to justfy this. Reply #9 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:16am I think it is reasonable to say the Muslim problem is getting worse. The question is whether there is a tipping point in public opinion in the West.
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Reply #10 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:38am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:16am:

I think it is reasonable to say the Muslim problem is getting worse. The question is whether there is a tipping point in public opinion in the West.

It can only get worse while we don't have Internment Camps for Muslims who openly sympathise with the butchers of ISIS ~ and while our prime ministers play politics by helping the Muslim Community pretend all of this violence has nothing to do with Islam.

Denials ... obfuscation ... rationalisations ... misdirection ... apologist face-saving exercises ... All assisted and aided by our own politicians.

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Reply #11 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 9:07am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:16am:

I think it is reasonable to say the Muslim problem is getting worse. The question is whether there is a tipping point in public opinion in the West.

It can only get worse while we don't have Internment Camps for Muslims who openly sympathise with the butchers of ISIS ~ and while our prime ministers play politics by helping the Muslim Community pretend all of this violence has nothing to do with Islam.

Denials ... obfuscation ... rationalisations ... misdirection ... apologist face-saving exercises ... All assisted and aided by our own politicians.

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The open denials from our national leaders [of our Western nations], of an undeniable truth - about the nature and character of ISLAM...

It is dreadful.

The political leaders of Western nations are displaying and demonstrating a shocking betrayal of the PRIMARY responsibility of their office(s), which is to protect our [nations] hard won cultural rights, cultural values and cultural freedoms, and to protect the peace [of our nations].

Western nations are 'losing their way', imo, have been for some decades.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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