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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #105 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:19am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 4:22pm: How will I know that I'm killing a terrorist? What do they look like? They wear black & have a towel on their head. They also carry a black flag. Get the bulldozers & machine guns ready.
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Reply #106 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:18am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

Muhammed killed lots of people and offered lots of excuses for people to kill. What is Islam, other than the words and deeds of Muhammed?

I'm certainly no fan of Muhammed (not that I believe he ever really existed) or his ridiculous religion.

However, I don't use them to excuse the actions of evil murdering bastards.

Neither does anyone else Greg. We are simply stating fairly obvious facts. Those Aussie Muslims would not be over their raping and pillaging if not for their ideology of Islam. This is true regardless of whether Muhammed even existed. Do you agree?

What this is not, is some kind of excuse. There is not Muslim defense like insanity in court. We can say these things and still want them wiped out. You BS is no different to insisting that talking about the evils of Nazism is making excuses for Nazis.

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Reply #107 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:25am

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Greg do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

They'd be committing some sort of crime.

They're inherently evil bastards - all they need is a catalyst (excuse).

Islam just happens to be the one that works for them.

You are an inherently good person, I'm assuming.

So, tell me, could you ever be convinced by a book/Islam/religion/charismatic leader/government/money/etc. to kill and rape?

I don't think so.

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Reply #108 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am

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They'd be committing some sort of crime.

Everyone commits some sort of crime. This is not the same thing as travelling to the other side of the world to participate in rape and pillage spree with your fellow Muslims.

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

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So, tell me, could you ever be convinced by a book/Islam/religion/charismatic leader/government/money/etc. to kill and rape?

There are plenty of things I would kill for, and probably all of them are in books.

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Reply #109 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

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Reply #110 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

I am going to appoint you team leader of the apologists. Or maybe the poster child. But you need to start accusing everyone else of being irrational more often.

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Reply #111 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

rubbish.

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Reply #112 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:56am

double plus good wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

rubbish.

They wouldn't be raping?

Oh, that's right - they're just good boys who got in with the wrong crowd.

It amazes me why you people keep making excuses for these criminals.

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Reply #113 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:58am

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

I am going to appoint you team leader of the apologists. Or maybe the poster child.

That's your job.

I make no apologies for evil, murdering bastards.

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Reply #114 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

double plus good wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

rubbish.

They wouldn't be raping?

Oh, that's right - they're just good boys who got in with the wrong crowd.

It amazes me why you people keep making excuses for these criminals.

ISIS is about furthering their version of Islam. It's like how the crusades were about Christianity. It's just plain wrong to take Islam out of this equation. Many of these men were at uni or in high paid professions before ISIS. They weren't street hoodlums.

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Reply #115 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:58am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

I am going to appoint you team leader of the apologists. Or maybe the poster child.

That's your job.

I make no apologies for evil, murdering bastards.

Greggorry can't bring himself to blame Islam. He's a religion apologist.

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Reply #116 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:09am

double plus good wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:02am:

Greggorry can't bring himself to blame Islam.

A belief can't fire a gun, or detonate a bomb, or chop off a head.

The blame lies with the people who do those things.

I make no excuses for those evil murdering bastards.

You, on the other hand, do.

That's your choice.

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Reply #118 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:15am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:09am:

double plus good wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:02am:

Greggorry can't bring himself to blame Islam.

A belief can't fire a gun, or detonate a bomb, or chop off a head.

The blame lies with the people who do those things.

I make no excuses for those evil murdering bastards.

You, on the other hand, do.

That's your choice.

This is the truth. I believe 99% of these ISIS fighters coming from here wouldn't have killed if it wasn't for this islamic ideaology. It's true that they are the killers but islam is the motivation. It's just a fact you'll have to come to terms with.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138440 Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #119 - Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:19am double plus good wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:15am: It's true that they are the killers but islam is the motivation. I agree with you 100%. Don't let them get away with using a belief system as an excuse, though. Motivation isn't justification.
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