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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #150 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm I am not asking for excuses, only a straight answer. Are they genetically predisposed to it Greg?
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #151 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 2:26pm freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm: I am not asking for excuses, only a straight answer. Are they genetically predisposed to it Greg? More FD fish ventriloquism?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137839 Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #152 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 2:29pm Unforgiven wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 2:26pm: freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm: I am not asking for excuses, only a straight answer. Are they genetically predisposed to it Greg? More FD fish ventriloquism? More excuses for killers?
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #153 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Yes: all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney

Islam is just the excuse they use today.

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Cultural issues

It has been claimed by the rapists themselves,that the rapes originated in a clash of Pakistani and Australian cultures,that the rapists did not understand the notion of consent,or that they saw their victims consenting on the basis of behaviour which Pakistani girls would not engage in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashfield_gang_rapes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Skaf

The muslims have already done a bit of raping here,was this before the creation of the Islamic state which rapes and enslaves yazidi children?

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Reply #154 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:17pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Yes: all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney

Islam is just the excuse they use today.

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Cultural issues

It has been claimed by the rapists themselves,that the rapes originated in a clash of Pakistani and Australian cultures,that the rapists did not understand the notion of consent,or that they saw their victims consenting on the basis of behaviour which Pakistani girls would not engage in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashfield_gang_rapes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Skaf

The muslims have already done a bit of raping here,was this before the creation of the Islamic state which rapes and enslaves yazidi children?

Is BaronVonRort worried about competition? Will Australians no longer be able to argue that Australian rapists are better than the rapists from other countries?

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Reply #155 - Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Yes: all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney

Islam is just the excuse they use today.

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Cultural issues

It has been claimed by the rapists themselves,that the rapes originated in a clash of Pakistani and Australian cultures,that the rapists did not understand the notion of consent,or that they saw their victims consenting on the basis of behaviour which Pakistani girls would not engage in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashfield_gang_rapes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Skaf

The muslims have already done a bit of raping here,was this before the creation of the Islamic state which rapes and enslaves yazidi children?

Is BaronVonRort worried about competition?

Get a job ya bum, stop being a parasite on society

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Reply #156 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 12:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

How about an answer to the question:

Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?

Absolutely.

They use Islam as an excuse, and you're letting them get away with it.

Want to try again Greg?

Try what again?

My answer remains the same: "absolutely".

Islam is just the excuse they use today.

If it didn't exist, they'd find another excuse.

They're motivated by Islam, however, motivation is not justification.

I'm not giving them an inch - the responsibility lies with them.

Good on you for having another go.

Are you having difficulty understanding the question?

Your question:

"Do you believe that all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims?"

My answer:

"Yes".

If you need me to walk you through it, I'm here to help you.

Yes please.

Spell it out for us Greg.

Yes: all those Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east would otherwise be raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney if they were not Muslims.

Islam is just the excuse they use today.

If it didn't exist, they'd find another excuse.

They're evil bastards.

Can't make it any simpler for you, sorry.

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 9:27pm:

Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation

Motivation? Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

So why did you push that idiotic nonsense about Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney instead of the middle east for some other reason if they were not Muslims? Did you forget what flavour of stupid you were spewing this week?

It's OK Greg, no-one expects sense or consistency from you.

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #157 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

I am not asking for excuses, only a straight answer. Are they genetically predisposed to it Greg?

I know this question was directed to Greg, but as no straight answer was forthcoming I will offer one.
I do not believe anyone is genetically predisposed to murder or maim others. However, because of the superstition, vindictiveness, and insular nature of Muslim tribalism, they are culturally predisposed to paranoid psychosis which find its outlet in actions like perceived holy war against those outside the tribe and the sanctimonious idea of martyrdom.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #158 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 9:52am Is this the same thing as apologising for them or saying they are not personally responsible for their own actions?
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #159 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 9:18am Let's face it, in the Middle East warring between tribes has been a way of life for centuries. Thanks to our ever shrinking world, Muslim fanaticism is now mainstream.com. The flavour of the decade and most probably the genesis for World War 3.
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #160 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 9:20am

Feared 2nd Tunisia terror attack foiled as 5 suspected terrorists killed in gun battle with special forces

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/feared-2nd-tunisia-terror-attack-6043329

The national guard and army operation, which took place near the town of El Ktar in the Gafsa region comes less than a week after Tunisia’s government declared a state of emergency

Security forces in Tunisia have killed five suspected extremists in the central region of the country, the Tunisian Interior Ministry has said.

The national guard and army operation, which took place near the town of El Ktar in the Gafsa region comes less than a week after Tunisia’s government declared a state of emergency following a gunman’s attack in the beach resort of Sousse that left 38 tourists dead - mostly Britons.

Ministry spokesman Walid Louguini said a gunfight erupted as a special national guard unit tracked and chased eight suspected extremists in the mountainous Ouled Bouomrane area, near Gafsa’s mining zone.

He said the operation was continuing.

The UK has urged all British tourists to leave Tunisia, saying an extremist attack was “highly likely” despite enhanced security measures.

Tunisian prime minister Habib Essid, speaking in a parliamentary debate, said his government “did everything in our power to protect (British) citizens and their interests, as well as those of all other countries”.

The government has carried out 7,000 security operations since an attack on the Bardo museum in Tunis in March, arresting 1,000 people and stopping 15,000 young people from travelling to fight jihad abroad, Mr Essid said, and was working to remedy “shortcomings.”

“Our country is going through a delicate situation, and is in danger,” he said.

Many Western European tour operators suspended trips to Tunisia following the Sousse killings.

France’s Foreign Ministry urged its citizens in Tunisia to be “particularly vigilant” but stopped short of urging departures.

Germany, two of whose citizens died in the Sousse shooting, made no immediate change to its travel advice.

Ireland, Denmark, Belgium and Finland all discouraged citizens from non-essential travel to Tunisia.

Such decisions are a new wound for Tunisia’s struggling tourism industry and for the nation’s reputation as it tries to solidify its new democracy in a volatile region.

The attack on the Bardo museum left 22 dead, mostly foreign tourists.

British Embassy officials are helping with departures of British tourists at Enfidha airport, but would not talk about the ramifications of the government’s warning.

The head of the Islamist party Ennahda’s group in parliament, Noureddine Bhiri, called the British decision “manifestly damaging to Tunisia and its democratic process”.

A French diplomat said French, British and German governments will work with Tunisia, notably in improving airport security and protecting tourist sites and foreign companies.

The diplomat said Western experts would meet next week in Tunis to discuss security measures.

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Reply #161 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am

For the immediate future, expect terrorist attacks to grow in number and velocity across the World.

ISIS grows ever stronger and really it is only in its infancy of organising attacks across the world.

I expect these attacks to multiply and grow in intensity, as ISIS gets ever bolder in confrontation with the West.

In some ways it reminds me of the Vietnam War. We now have so many Muslims living in Western Countries that the guy who brings your pizza, could be prepping up a bomb in his spare time.

This kind of 'War' will go on and on until such time that ISIS or similar thinks they have a shot of taking a whole Country. Then War proper breaks out.

Miserable scenario but that's the way it is I'm afraid.

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Reply #162 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:53am

red baron wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

For the immediate future, expect terrorist attacks to grow in number and velocity across the World.

ISIS grows ever stronger and really it is only in its infancy of organising attacks across the world.

I expect these attacks to multiply and grow in intensity, as ISIS gets ever bolder in confrontation with the West.

In some ways it reminds me of the Vietnam War. We now have so many Muslims living in Western Countries that the guy who brings your pizza, could be prepping up a bomb in his spare time.

This kind of 'War' will go on and on until such time that ISIS or similar thinks they have a shot of taking a whole Country. Then War proper breaks out.

Miserable scenario but that's the way it is I'm afraid.

What you said....

I concur.

QUESTION;
But why is this circumstance coming upon us [upon Western nations] ?

ANSWER;
Western nations are corrupt - we have morally corrupted ourselves.

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IMO, ppl like yourself seem to want a 'peace' at any cost.

But, imo morality, or life, doesn't work like that.

Peace comes from defending open truth.

But your logic seems to be;
'Wanting' something, will produce it.

Or;
'If we give bullies what they want, surely, they will be satisfied, and leave us alone.'

They won't.

If you give a bully/thug, what he wants, he will come back again, and again.

And eventually he will take from you, everything that you own.

And the last thing the bully/the thug, will take from you, is your life.

The appeasement of evil men, does not lead to peace.

IMO, this generation has lost the ability to discern between good and evil, between truth and falsehood.

As individuals, we all know, or as adults, we should know by now!, that if we walk away from truth, we will [always!] reap confusion in our lives.

Peace and lawlessness cannot exist together.

Q.
What tends toward lawlessness ?

All violence [actual and implicit] which is justified by a mind, which serves human corruption.

Q.
What tends toward Peace ?

A love of open truth.

Truth brings peace, through justice, and the judgement, of wicked people.

When wicked people [criminals] are judged and removed from a society, that society, will enjoy peace.

REAL peace.

Whenever a society of men have a deep love of truth, that society will enjoy peace.

And, visa-versa.

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Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist.

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I can understand a child being afraid of the dark, but I cannot understand an adult being afraid of the light.

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