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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #30 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm

Marla wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

red baron wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Let's hear what your cure is? Bear in mind that ISIS are murdering other followers of Islam, they don't like the Shiites or the Sunnies...only ISIS exists for them and they are quite happy to butcher their brothers.

For one,

I'd love to see an abolishment of all religions

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Yes, ALL of them. about 90% of the world's horrors would end overnight.

Marla,

What you are saying, is that you want to BAN free thought ?

Are you sure that you are not, a filthy stinking moslem ?

I ask, because,

that is the exact dictate of ISLAM too

,       .....to make it a crime to believe, or to think, about anything except what ISLAM sanctions [and what moslems believe].

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Yadda would support a ban on the practice of ISLAM, here, in Australia.    [because ISLAM is a tyrannical and fascist philosophy, imo.]

But, contra-wise,       Yadda would NOT support, for example, a ban on access to, and the reading and study of the the contents of the Koran [or Hadith].       [because i want people to understand and know, exactly what it is that ISLAM promotes in the world! ]

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

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"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #31 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:37pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/

So long as you are not 'openly gay' you should be fine.

Being the straightest person on Ozpolitic - I should be fine.

Uh Oh, Yaddas In Trouble!

Yadda is shamelessly, a very gay person.

You don't sound too gay to me Yadda, you're straight out packing sh1t about Islam every single day.

pansi,

I think that ppl like yourself, are wonderful too.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41973	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #32 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:43pm freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/ So long as you are not 'openly gay' you should be fine. It has not been illegal to be gay in the defence forces for 15 years, FD.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49096 At my desk.	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #33 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:44pm Of course. You had an illustrious military career didn't you? Back before your illustrious academic career....
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #34 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

They follow a book that talks about spreading islam through blood and conquest. That's where they get their ideas from. They are weak minded people who are brainwashed by this rubbish.

Yes, weak minded people who would be just as easily brainwashed by someone or something else, if Islam didn't exist.

These weak minded, evil bastards are the ones who are ultimately to blame for terrorist attacks - not a religion, or a book (unless you've seen a book somewhere carrying a bomb).

Stop making excuses for them.

I would prefer they were duped into losing all their money rather than blowing up a bus.

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

If it wasn't for your country invading other countries we probably wouldn't have ISIS.

Probably

The Iraq invasion created such a mess that ISIS could be formed.

ISIS started in Syria. Many blame our lack of intervention there.

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #35 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:49pm

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

If it wasn't for your country invading other countries we probably wouldn't have ISIS.

Probably

The Iraq invasion created such a mess that ISIS could be formed.

Saddam knew what to do with terrorists -

they should have left him in power to bring law & order.

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #36 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:01pm:

Weak minded people can be lead to do things they wouldn't otherwise do.

The ultimate responsibility lies with them.

Don't make excuses for evil bastards.

Don't be a terrorist apologist.

Precisely.

And let's not forget that these terrorists take their authority from the scriptural Islam.

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #37 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/

So long as you are not 'openly gay' you should be fine.

It has not been illegal to be gay in the defence forces for 15 years, FD. Roll Eyes

Eddie had a woman WO on the other day who had a 'partner' named some sheila's name and two kids... just goes to show, eh? In transport of course..... not Infantry etc... that's men's work... it's called affirmative action and I'm sick and tied of it and the utter waste of time and good people it is.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13654 Colorado Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #38 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:49pm: Saddam knew what to do with terrorists - Yes he did. Why he must have killed thousands of innocents just to get to them.
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #39 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

Of course. You had an illustrious military career didn't you? Back before your illustrious academic career....

What does that have to do with disputing the legality of being Gay or not in the ADF, FD?

Do you always resort to such childish ad hominem attacks when you've been proved wrong on a significant point? Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105409 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France Reply #40 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:09pm Marla wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:49pm: Saddam knew what to do with terrorists - Yes he did. Why he must have killed thousands of innocents just to get to them. Yes - he used to bulldoze 10's of 1000s of them into massive holes in the desert.
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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #41 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:11pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/

So long as you are not 'openly gay' you should be fine.

It has not been illegal to be gay in the defence forces for 15 years, FD. Roll Eyes

Eddie had a woman WO on the other day who had a 'partner' named some sheila's name and two kids... just goes to show, eh? In transport of course..... not Infantry etc... that's men's work... it's called affirmative action and I'm sick and tied of it and the utter waste of time and good people it is.

Having served with Gay men and women, before it was legal to be so, all I can say is good on them for recognising that they exist and that they are serving. Makes the whole matter out in the open and no one can be attacked secretly any more for being Gay. It is not affirmative action, I can assure you, its equal recognition. They exist and they choose to serve, Grappler. I've even known of a Gay Infantry NCO when I was in. Nice chap. Hard as nails. Perhaps he was over-compensating? Roll Eyes

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #42 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

Of course. You had an illustrious military career didn't you? Back before your illustrious academic career....

What does that have to do with disputing the legality of being Gay or not in the ADF, FD?

Do you always resort to such childish ad hominem attacks when you've been proved wrong on a significant point? Roll Eyes

So highlighting your impressive military and academic achievements is an attack? Did you get attacked a lot in the military?

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #43 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:14pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

Marla,

What you are saying, is that you want to BAN free thought ?

Since when does any religion allow free thought? Religion is about control, instilling fear and gives little concern for the individual.

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

Are you sure that you are not, a filthy stinking moslem

You sure you're not a filthy stinking racist xenophobe?

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

Yadda would support a ban on the practice of ISLAM, here, in Australia. [because ISLAM is a tyrannical and fascist philosophy, imo.

Not much different from the Catholicism teachings I was raised with.

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Re: Multiple ISIS attacks Tunisia, Kuwait, France
Reply #44 - Jun 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm

When ISIS invades a city they demolish it and murder innocent civilians with a bloodlust that is simply frightening in its proportions. They then tear down anything that offends their eyes including ancient and important structures built by ancient civilisations.

ISIS are nothing but a terrorist cult and will kill anyone including children that don't fit into their ideology.

They are as evil as it is possible to be.

Marla you are an idealist and very callow about how the real world works.

Marla if they came to your city, you would be one of the victims because ISIS has declared us infidels all enemies and to be murdered at every opportunity. That is a stone cold fact.

How would you like to see ISIS in your town butchering everyone you love?

Couldn't happen...well left unchecked...yes it could.

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