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A good news Muslim story
Jul 3rd, 2015 at 11:09am
 
The daily family ritual of sitting down to dinner together has taken on a new significance for about half a million Australian Muslims observing the holy month of Ramadan.

They must abstain from all food and drink during daylight hours to purify the soul, refocus on God, and practice self-sacrifice.

The fast is broken every evening at sunset with special meals enjoyed together with family and friends.

"It is such a special thing for us, the Ramadan dinner," said mother-of-five, Canan Coskun, from Logan, south of Brisbane.

"If you can imagine you haven't eaten all day so you're really looking forward to that soup and that bread, and everything just seems so delicious."

Her family hosts the special dinners, or Iftars, where they invite non-Muslim guests to share in the evening meal at their home.

This year, the Coskuns counted Queensland's Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Brent Carter among their guests.

"What better thing to do with someone than to sit down and have food with them?" said Mrs Coskun.

"Especially when we're in my home and I'm serving them food.

"To share that special moment with people from other faith backgrounds, it means a lot to us."

Mrs Coskun said she believed having a meal together could also help to break down barriers.

"I've had many people over at my house who have never seen a Muslim person before, or maybe they've never seen a woman in a hijab," she said.

"They're sitting at my dinner table and just kind of looking at me serving them soup and serving them sweets, and I can see them thinking, 'wow, they're pretty much like us and they're quite normal'."

The notion of going without food or water for thirty days also sparks plenty of questions from non-Muslim guests.

"They just think we're refraining from food and water, but it's more than that," said 18-year-old Seyma Coskun.

"It's about developing more spiritually, it's about doing more good, it's about making better habits."

Her eight year-old brother, Huzeyfe, is not obliged to fast until he reaches puberty, but he is trying to join his parents and older sisters.

He says his friends are very curious.

"They ask, 'is it easy and do you get very hungry?' and I say that I don't eat much, so it's easy for me," he said.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic lunar calendar and this year runs from June 18 until July 17.

Like his wife, Murat Coskun hoped breaking bread with other community members might help foster tolerance and appreciation of cultural diversity.

"I think that whilst it's not an obligation for people to know about it, it would not take anything away from them, from knowing about Ramadan, " he said.

"It would just add to their depth and I think and it would help them better understand people that they bump into at work, or maybe their neighbours or their friends.

"We like to learn about Christmas and how our human brethren live and what they believe in."

He said the family looked forward to Ramadan.

"It's like the spiritual pinnacle of our year," said Mr Coskun.

"It's where we're closest to God and consequently closest to people as well."

Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Carter described it as an educational experience.

"You know I've learned so much, meeting this family for the first time, sitting down and sharing a meal with them," he said.

"They're just like any other Australian family: hard working, very committed and family-orientated."

The dinners are coordinated through the Queensland Intercultural Society to foster a better understanding of the Islamic faith.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-02/australian-muslims-use-ramadan-to-break-do...
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Re: A good news Muslim story
Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 11:44am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 11:09am:
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"It is such a special thing for us, the Ramadan dinner," said mother-of-five, Canan Coskun, from Logan, south of Brisbane.

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Her family hosts the special dinners, or Iftars, where they invite non-Muslim guests to share in the evening meal at their home.

This year, the Coskuns counted Queensland's Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Brent Carter among their guests.

"What better thing to do with someone than to sit down and have food with them?" said Mrs Coskun.

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The dinners are coordinated through the Queensland Intercultural Society
to foster a better understanding of the Islamic faith.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-02/australian-muslims-use-ramadan-to-break-do...




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QUESTION;

How can Australians ever have a peaceful relationship with 'Aussie' moslems, when the moslem community in Australia,
hides a malevolent intent
towards all Australians who are not moslems ?




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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
Spare a thought for our UK brothers and sisters - fasting 20 hours a day  Wink
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 12:41pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Spare a thought for our UK brothers and sisters - fasting 20 hours a day  Wink



They should sleep during the day so they don't have to fast.
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 3:39pm
 
that would defeat the purpose Baron. They may as well not fast at all.

Though it would be more sensible to agree upon a set 12 or so hours to fast - rather than be beholden to the daylight hours.
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 4:24pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 3:39pm:
Though it would be more sensible to agree upon a set 12 or so hours to fast - rather than be beholden to the daylight hours.


Are you saying the rules for fasting are not sensible,who was the fool who created those rules?  Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 4:58pm
 
Must you always act like a dick Baron?

Its a legitimate question, but there are ways of asking and there are ways of asking.
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:07pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 3:39pm:
that would defeat the purpose Baron. They may as well not fast at all.

Though it would be more sensible to agree upon a set 12 or so hours to fast - rather than be beholden to the daylight hours.

Or maybe all Muslims should go back to Araby for Ramadan.

Keepin' it real - like.



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Reply #8 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm
 
It is reasonable for muslims worldwide to follow Mecca time during Ramadan IMO.
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:31pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm:
It is reasonable for muslims worldwide to follow Mecca time during Ramadan IMO.

Isn't this a ridiculous bronze age superstition, adopted by medieval Arabs?

And shouldn't your fasting be a matter between you and Allah, rather than you and your beady eyed Muslim neighbour?

What is Allah going to do if you do not fast EXACTLY between sunrise and sunset? Smite you?

The ludicrous literalism of Islam demonstrates that it is the creation of a semi-literate meshuggeh.



This insistance on a stupid rule shows just how unreceptive Muslims are to reason - they are super-rationalists (adhering to the black letter of the law) and have minimal ability to see purpose, aim, design. There is no reasoning in Islam to find anew way, there is only rationalising the stupid old dogma that way invented by a semi-literate meshuggeh.

It's all a colossal misunderstaning and if you look at the faces of people who are taken in by it - the Elomars and Sharoufs of this world, and the Middlle Eastern Imams here and across the world  - you see just how dreadfully and dangerously stupid it all is.

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Reply #10 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:37pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm:
It is reasonable for muslims worldwide to follow Mecca time during Ramadan IMO.

Isn't this a ridiculous bronze age superstition, adopted by medieval Arabs?

And shouldn't your fasting be a matter between you and Allah, rather than you and your beady eyed Muslim neighbour?

What is Allah going to do if you do not fast EXACTLY between sunrise and sunset? Smite you?

The ludicrous literalism of Islam demonstrates that it is the creation of a semi-literate meshuggeh.



This insistance on a stupid rule shows just how unreceptive Muslims are to reason - they are super-rationalists (adhering to the black letter of the law) and have minimal ability to see purpose, aim, design. There is no reasoning in Islam to find anew way, there is only rationalising the stupid old dogma that way invented by a semi-literate meshuggeh.

It's all a colossal misunderstaning and if you look at the faces of people who are taken in by it - the Elomars and Sharoufs of this world, and the Middlle Eastern Imams here and across the world  - you see just how dreadfully and dangerously stupid it all is.


Interesting that you'd use a Jewish word, Soren...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:44pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Isn't this a ridiculous bronze age superstition, adopted by medieval Arabs?

And shouldn't your fasting be a matter between you and Allah, rather than you and your beady eyed Muslim neighbour?


Muslims are very communal. Its traditional to hold gatherings at break-fasting and join together in the ramadan prayers.

Obviously that would all fall apart if everyone was fasting 'free-for-all'
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm:
It is reasonable for muslims worldwide to follow Mecca time during Ramadan IMO.

Isn't this a ridiculous bronze age superstition, adopted by medieval Arabs?

And shouldn't your fasting be a matter between you and Allah, rather than you and your beady eyed Muslim neighbour?

What is Allah going to do if you do not fast EXACTLY between sunrise and sunset? Smite you?

The ludicrous literalism of Islam demonstrates that it is the creation of a semi-literate meshuggeh.



This insistance on a stupid rule shows just how unreceptive Muslims are to reason - they are super-rationalists (adhering to the black letter of the law) and have minimal ability to see purpose, aim, design. There is no reasoning in Islam to find anew way, there is only rationalising the stupid old dogma that way invented by a semi-literate meshuggeh.

It's all a colossal misunderstaning and if you look at the faces of people who are taken in by it - the Elomars and Sharoufs of this world, and the Middlle Eastern Imams here and across the world  - you see just how dreadfully and dangerously stupid it all is.


Interesting that you'd use a Jewish word, Soren...   Roll Eyes

Is it, my know-bugger-All little interlocutor?

The Jews of Araby were exterminated by Mohammed because they called him just what he was, a meshuggeh, a madman.

He wanted to be the next Jewish prophet but illiterates are not seen by the 'people of he book' as sufficiently lettered to qualify for prophethood.

That incensed old Mo and so he murdered them all.





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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:56pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm:
It is reasonable for muslims worldwide to follow Mecca time during Ramadan IMO.

Isn't this a ridiculous bronze age superstition, adopted by medieval Arabs?

And shouldn't your fasting be a matter between you and Allah, rather than you and your beady eyed Muslim neighbour?

What is Allah going to do if you do not fast EXACTLY between sunrise and sunset? Smite you?

The ludicrous literalism of Islam demonstrates that it is the creation of a semi-literate meshuggeh.



This insistance on a stupid rule shows just how unreceptive Muslims are to reason - they are super-rationalists (adhering to the black letter of the law) and have minimal ability to see purpose, aim, design. There is no reasoning in Islam to find anew way, there is only rationalising the stupid old dogma that way invented by a semi-literate meshuggeh.

It's all a colossal misunderstaning and if you look at the faces of people who are taken in by it - the Elomars and Sharoufs of this world, and the Middlle Eastern Imams here and across the world  - you see just how dreadfully and dangerously stupid it all is.


Interesting that you'd use a Jewish word, Soren...   Roll Eyes

Is it, my know-bugger-All little interlocutor?


Yes.  Nothing wrong with using it, I just find it interesting, Soren.  You appear to have a problem with me noting it for some reason.

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The Jews of Araby were exterminated by Mohammed because they called him just what he was, a meshuggeh, a madman.

He wanted to be the next Jewish prophet but illiterates are not seen by the 'people of he book' as sufficiently lettered to qualify for prophethood.

That incensed old Mo and so he murdered them all.


And so all Muslims must pay for all eternity for that crime, Soren?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:56pm
 
Muhammed made a good start on wiping out the local Jews, and his successors finished them off.
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