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Reply #75 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #76 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.
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Reply #77 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.


No, Soren, its up to you to differentiate, unless of course your Islamophobia prevents you?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #78 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.


No, Soren, its up to you to differentiate, unless of course your Islamophobia prevents you?   Roll Eyes

Why is it up to me to differentiate between the levels of belief in Islam? can't they themselves tell the degree they believe in Islam?  Are they lost without me telling them?

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Reply #79 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:30pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Why is it up to me to differentiate between the levels of belief in Islam? can't they themselves tell the degree they believe in Islam?  Are they lost without me telling them?


Because that way, he's got you coming and going. You see, if *you* purport to say which are "true" muslims, then he can call you prejudiced and a bigot. But, if you don't, then it's islamophobia preventing you from distinguishing between the two. Cunning, no?
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Reply #80 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:01am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.


No, Soren, its up to you to differentiate, unless of course your Islamophobia prevents you?   Roll Eyes

Why is it up to me to differentiate between the levels of belief in Islam? can't they themselves tell the degree they believe in Islam?  Are they lost without me telling them?


Oh, I'm sure they're willing to announce their beliefs for your benefit, Soren.  The point is will you believe them?     Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:49pm
 
When talking about Muslims chopping people's heads off, it is important to explain that you are talking about Muslims chopping people's heads off, and not Muslims refraining from chopping people's heads off, otherwise Brian gets terribly confused and thinks we are talking about the crusades or pedophile priests.
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Reply #82 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:01am:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.


No, Soren, its up to you to differentiate, unless of course your Islamophobia prevents you?   Roll Eyes

Why is it up to me to differentiate between the levels of belief in Islam? can't they themselves tell the degree they believe in Islam?  Are they lost without me telling them?


Oh, I'm sure they're willing to announce their beliefs for your benefit, Soren.  The point is will you believe them?     Roll Eyes



You are a fookin' looney.

Report me.


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Reply #83 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:01am:
Oh, I'm sure they're willing to announce their beliefs for your benefit, Soren.  The point is will you believe them?     Roll Eyes

Oh, I take them at their word, Brain.  Always have. Unlike you, Pea Brained squishy apologists, who will twist and excuse what they say.
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Reply #84 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 11:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:01am:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:50pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Here, the 489th time, Brain - I have NO quarrel with anyone who doesn't take Islam seriously.  You are a complete idiot for imagining that you of all people are standing up for Muslims who themselves do not take Islam seriously enough to bother with its teachings.

If you don't practice it, you are not taking it seriously.

Only a fool like you needs that spelled out after every sentence.


However, while you mouth your platitudes, Soren here, in every other thread and even on earlier pages of this one, you make no effort to differentiate between the lax, the mainstream and the extremists who each in turn believe in very different versions of Islam.   To you, they are all just "Muslims"...   Roll Eyes

They are making the differentiation themselves, Brain. You know, if the cap fits, wear it.


No, Soren, its up to you to differentiate, unless of course your Islamophobia prevents you?   Roll Eyes

Why is it up to me to differentiate between the levels of belief in Islam? can't they themselves tell the degree they believe in Islam?  Are they lost without me telling them?


Oh, I'm sure they're willing to announce their beliefs for your benefit, Soren.  The point is will you believe them?     Roll Eyes



You are a fookin' looney.

Report me.


Why would I report you, Soren?  I find your presence here most amusing as you expose your Islamophobia for all to see...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #85 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:01am:
Oh, I'm sure they're willing to announce their beliefs for your benefit, Soren.  The point is will you believe them?     Roll Eyes

Oh, I take them at their word, Brain.  Always have. Unlike you, Pea Brained squishy apologists, who will twist and excuse what they say.


Yes, please keep up your ad hominem attacks against me, Soren.  They are most amusing.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #86 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:25pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 11:09am:
The daily family ritual of sitting down to dinner together has taken on a new significance for about half a million Australian Muslims observing the holy month of Ramadan.

They must abstain from all food and drink during daylight hours to purify the soul, refocus on God, and practice self-sacrifice.

The fast is broken every evening at sunset with special meals enjoyed together with family and friends.

"It is such a special thing for us, the Ramadan dinner," said mother-of-five, Canan Coskun, from Logan, south of Brisbane.

"If you can imagine you haven't eaten all day so you're really looking forward to that soup and that bread, and everything just seems so delicious."

Her family hosts the special dinners, or Iftars, where they invite non-Muslim guests to share in the evening meal at their home.

This year, the Coskuns counted Queensland's Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Brent Carter among their guests.

"What better thing to do with someone than to sit down and have food with them?" said Mrs Coskun.

"Especially when we're in my home and I'm serving them food.

"To share that special moment with people from other faith backgrounds, it means a lot to us."

Mrs Coskun said she believed having a meal together could also help to break down barriers.

"I've had many people over at my house who have never seen a Muslim person before, or maybe they've never seen a woman in a hijab," she said.

"They're sitting at my dinner table and just kind of looking at me serving them soup and serving them sweets, and I can see them thinking, 'wow, they're pretty much like us and they're quite normal'."

The notion of going without food or water for thirty days also sparks plenty of questions from non-Muslim guests.

"They just think we're refraining from food and water, but it's more than that," said 18-year-old Seyma Coskun.

"It's about developing more spiritually, it's about doing more good, it's about making better habits."

Her eight year-old brother, Huzeyfe, is not obliged to fast until he reaches puberty, but he is trying to join his parents and older sisters.

He says his friends are very curious.

"They ask, 'is it easy and do you get very hungry?' and I say that I don't eat much, so it's easy for me," he said.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic lunar calendar and this year runs from June 18 until July 17.

Like his wife, Murat Coskun hoped breaking bread with other community members might help foster tolerance and appreciation of cultural diversity.

"I think that whilst it's not an obligation for people to know about it, it would not take anything away from them, from knowing about Ramadan, " he said.

"It would just add to their depth and I think and it would help them better understand people that they bump into at work, or maybe their neighbours or their friends.

"We like to learn about Christmas and how our human brethren live and what they believe in."

He said the family looked forward to Ramadan.

"It's like the spiritual pinnacle of our year," said Mr Coskun.

"It's where we're closest to God and consequently closest to people as well."

Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Carter described it as an educational experience.

"You know I've learned so much, meeting this family for the first time, sitting down and sharing a meal with them," he said.

"They're just like any other Australian family: hard working, very committed and family-orientated."

The dinners are coordinated through the Queensland Intercultural Society to foster a better understanding of the Islamic faith.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-02/australian-muslims-use-ramadan-to-break-do...


It is a bit of a laugh, all the raving about fasting during ramadan just to have a daily pig out. What a joke. Much like everything else with this lot.
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #87 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:37pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:25pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 11:09am:
The daily family ritual of sitting down to dinner together has taken on a new significance for about half a million Australian Muslims observing the holy month of Ramadan.

They must abstain from all food and drink during daylight hours to purify the soul, refocus on God, and practice self-sacrifice.

The fast is broken every evening at sunset with special meals enjoyed together with family and friends.

"It is such a special thing for us, the Ramadan dinner," said mother-of-five, Canan Coskun, from Logan, south of Brisbane.

"If you can imagine you haven't eaten all day so you're really looking forward to that soup and that bread, and everything just seems so delicious."

Her family hosts the special dinners, or Iftars, where they invite non-Muslim guests to share in the evening meal at their home.

This year, the Coskuns counted Queensland's Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Brent Carter among their guests.

"What better thing to do with someone than to sit down and have food with them?" said Mrs Coskun.

"Especially when we're in my home and I'm serving them food.

"To share that special moment with people from other faith backgrounds, it means a lot to us."

Mrs Coskun said she believed having a meal together could also help to break down barriers.

"I've had many people over at my house who have never seen a Muslim person before, or maybe they've never seen a woman in a hijab," she said.

"They're sitting at my dinner table and just kind of looking at me serving them soup and serving them sweets, and I can see them thinking, 'wow, they're pretty much like us and they're quite normal'."

The notion of going without food or water for thirty days also sparks plenty of questions from non-Muslim guests.

"They just think we're refraining from food and water, but it's more than that," said 18-year-old Seyma Coskun.

"It's about developing more spiritually, it's about doing more good, it's about making better habits."

Her eight year-old brother, Huzeyfe, is not obliged to fast until he reaches puberty, but he is trying to join his parents and older sisters.

He says his friends are very curious.

"They ask, 'is it easy and do you get very hungry?' and I say that I don't eat much, so it's easy for me," he said.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic lunar calendar and this year runs from June 18 until July 17.

Like his wife, Murat Coskun hoped breaking bread with other community members might help foster tolerance and appreciation of cultural diversity.

"I think that whilst it's not an obligation for people to know about it, it would not take anything away from them, from knowing about Ramadan, " he said.

"It would just add to their depth and I think and it would help them better understand people that they bump into at work, or maybe their neighbours or their friends.

"We like to learn about Christmas and how our human brethren live and what they believe in."

He said the family looked forward to Ramadan.

"It's like the spiritual pinnacle of our year," said Mr Coskun.

"It's where we're closest to God and consequently closest to people as well."

Acting Assistant Police Commissioner Carter described it as an educational experience.

"You know I've learned so much, meeting this family for the first time, sitting down and sharing a meal with them," he said.

"They're just like any other Australian family: hard working, very committed and family-orientated."

The dinners are coordinated through the Queensland Intercultural Society to foster a better understanding of the Islamic faith.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-02/australian-muslims-use-ramadan-to-break-do...


It is a bit of a laugh, all the raving about fasting during ramadan just to have a daily pig out. What a joke. Much like everything else with this lot.


where does it say they pig out?

they can eat after sunset.
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Reply #88 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:39pm
 
I do realize pigs are not halal you know. The pun was intended.
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Reply #89 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:42pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:39pm:
I do realize pigs are not halal you know. The pun was intended.



Messengers/prophets/ people from all religions and cultures fast.

So are they a joke?
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