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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #30 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:18pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 12:24am:
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Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 10:06am:
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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.


Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?



I'm a peaceful person, I don't support violence of any sort whether it be with Rastifarians, Christians, Athiests or Muslims.

The last thing I'd want to do is get mixed up in some crazy religious argument, in my opinion, they're all nuts, but I still believe you can follow Islam without committing murder and mayhem.


Yes I'd hate for you to have to take a stance on quarrelsome religious issues like whether to execute gays. Much better to cover your eyes and convince yourself they are moderates, because they have not yet chopped your head off.

Tell me Pansi, were you this keen to defend frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics prior to the current season of Islamic terrorism, or did you only realise they were your friends afterwards?



Don't you think, considering how many Muslims there are in the world, that if all of these people were war mongering, intolerant or blood thirsty, we would be seeing a hell of a lot more blood letting?

The vast majority of Muslims in this country (and i would go so far as to say the entire world) are not "frothing at the mouth", nor do the want to execute gays and lesbians (thought i'd throw the lesbian thing in because everybody seems to forget lesbians when arguing for rights).

You've been hoodwinked by a noisy and dedicated minority. Isn't it tiresome to keep on believing 'they' are all out to get you?


Over 400 million radical & fundamentalist Muslims globally aren't a minority.....

that's more than the entire population of the USA.

So that's just a poor assumption on your part.


Remember, when Pansi talks about moderates, she is including people who promote the execution of gays etc. Basically, anyone who is not currently engaged in the act of removing her head is by definition a moderate.
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #31 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 6:58am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 12:24am:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 7:06pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 10:06am:
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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.


Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?



I'm a peaceful person, I don't support violence of any sort whether it be with Rastifarians, Christians, Athiests or Muslims.

The last thing I'd want to do is get mixed up in some crazy religious argument, in my opinion, they're all nuts, but I still believe you can follow Islam without committing murder and mayhem.


Yes I'd hate for you to have to take a stance on quarrelsome religious issues like whether to execute gays. Much better to cover your eyes and convince yourself they are moderates, because they have not yet chopped your head off.

Tell me Pansi, were you this keen to defend frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics prior to the current season of Islamic terrorism, or did you only realise they were your friends afterwards?



Don't you think, considering how many Muslims there are in the world, that if all of these people were war mongering, intolerant or blood thirsty, we would be seeing a hell of a lot more blood letting?

The vast majority of Muslims in this country (and i would go so far as to say the entire world) are not "frothing at the mouth", nor do the want to execute gays and lesbians (thought i'd throw the lesbian thing in because everybody seems to forget lesbians when arguing for rights).

You've been hoodwinked by a noisy and dedicated minority. Isn't it tiresome to keep on believing 'they' are all out to get you?


Over 400 million radical & fundamentalist Muslims globally aren't a minority.....

that's more than the entire population of the USA.

So that's just a poor assumption on your part.


Remember, when Pansi talks about moderates, she is including people who promote the execution of gays etc. Basically, anyone who is not currently engaged in the act of removing her head is by definition a moderate.




Lol freediver, Tony's done a job on you. I'm surprised you're game to go to the letterbox.

Get over the fear or it will consume you.
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #32 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:04am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 12:24am:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 7:06pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 10:06am:
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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.


Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?



I'm a peaceful person, I don't support violence of any sort whether it be with Rastifarians, Christians, Athiests or Muslims.

The last thing I'd want to do is get mixed up in some crazy religious argument, in my opinion, they're all nuts, but I still believe you can follow Islam without committing murder and mayhem.


Yes I'd hate for you to have to take a stance on quarrelsome religious issues like whether to execute gays. Much better to cover your eyes and convince yourself they are moderates, because they have not yet chopped your head off.

Tell me Pansi, were you this keen to defend frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics prior to the current season of Islamic terrorism, or did you only realise they were your friends afterwards?



Don't you think, considering how many Muslims there are in the world, that if all of these people were war mongering, intolerant or blood thirsty, we would be seeing a hell of a lot more blood letting?

The vast majority of Muslims in this country (and i would go so far as to say the entire world) are not "frothing at the mouth", nor do the want to execute gays and lesbians (thought i'd throw the lesbian thing in because everybody seems to forget lesbians when arguing for rights).

You've been hoodwinked by a noisy and dedicated minority. Isn't it tiresome to keep on believing 'they' are all out to get you?


Over 400 million radical & fundamentalist Muslims globally aren't a minority.....

that's more than the entire population of the USA.

So that's just a poor assumption on your part.




Are you sure there's that many radicals?

Maybe that's roughly how many people purport to be Muslim, many of those would eat oink oink and partake of the alcohol.
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #33 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:39am
 
No pansy ... that's those who support & or follow the radical/fundmentalist views ...

on Sharia Law, polygamy, wearing full burkha, women not driving, stoning women for adultery or being raped, non education rights to women, child marriage, religious & infidel intolerance etc etc

Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.
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Reply #34 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:19am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:39am:
No pansy ... that's those who support & or follow the radical/fundmentalist views ...

on Sharia Law, polygamy, wearing full burkha, women not driving, stoning women for adultery or being raped, non education rights to women, child marriage, religious & infidel intolerance etc etc

Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.



I would not be counting most of the Muslim women in Saudi Arabia.....they'd be behind the wheel if they had half a chance. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't count many Muslim women at all, they don't want to be held back, it's just they haven't found their voices yet.

They will.....in time.
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #35 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am
 
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #36 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:31am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am:
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).



They will. Women always find their feet, it's just that in some cultures it seems almost impossible. It might take Muslim women another 100 years before they liberate themselves, best let them do it on their own terms, at their own pace, without western intervention.

Once again....I do not support homicidal anything, ok?
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #37 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:33am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:31am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am:
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).



They will. Women always find their feet, it's just that in some cultures it seems almost impossible. It might take Muslim women another 100 years before they liberate themselves, best let them do it on their own terms, at their own pace, without western intervention.

Once again....I do not support homicidal anything, ok?
What about if they are living here?
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Reply #38 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:22pm
 
double plus good wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:33am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:31am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am:
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).



They will. Women always find their feet, it's just that in some cultures it seems almost impossible. It might take Muslim women another 100 years before they liberate themselves, best let them do it on their own terms, at their own pace, without western intervention.

Once again....I do not support homicidal anything, ok?
What about if they are living here?




Bring them over to the CWA we'll straighten them out with good womanly common sense.
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Reply #39 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:25pm
 
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What about if they are living here?


Any criminal acts by anyone will be dealt with through our justice system.  So that people like you can not make ridiculous assertions about people.   Smiley
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Reply #40 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:28pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:39am:
No pansy ... that's those who support & or follow the radical/fundmentalist views ...

on Sharia Law, polygamy, wearing full burkha, women not driving, stoning women for adultery or being raped, non education rights to women, child marriage, religious & infidel intolerance etc etc

Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.


Muslims will try to distance themselves from the Saudis yet they face Mecca in Saudi Arabia when they pray.

One of the 5 pillars of Islam is hajj, you have to go to Saudi Arabia for that.

If you want to see what Islam is like just look at the homeland of it Saudi Arabia.
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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #41 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:40pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:31am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am:
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).



They will. Women always find their feet, it's just that in some cultures it seems almost impossible. It might take Muslim women another 100 years before they liberate themselves, best let them do it on their own terms, at their own pace, without western intervention.

Once again....I do not support homicidal anything, ok?


Yes you do. You even said you would support people who preached the execution of gays in 'church'.

Pansi, imagine that Australian churches did actually start preaching the execution of gays. You would rightly call an idiot someone who insisted we must support these hate preachers in case one of their congregation turns into an extremist and starts executing gays, so that we can be united in our hand wringing with the people encouraging the slaughter.

Yet this is exactly what you are doing with Muslims.

If those women do achieve liberty, it will be despite the efforts of leftists like you. I have often heard that the worst enemy of womens lib is other women trying to bring them down, but I have never seen it writ so large as in your posts. You would literally throw them to the wolves - to what end is anyone's guess.
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Reply #42 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:59pm
 
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If those women do achieve liberty, it will be despite the efforts of leftists like you. I have often heard that the worst enemy of womens lib is other women trying to bring them down, but I have never seen it writ so large as in your posts. You would literally throw them to the wolves - to what end is anyone's guess.


And what does the efforts of right wings like you achieve?  We went to war in Afghanistan to 'liberate' the people.  It did not happen.  Except in regions of the capital cities, which are frequently bombed, many regional areas are still under factional control, some are even worse than Taliban.   We went to war in Iraq, to 'liberate' the people.  It did not happen.  Now ISIL run rampant in the region of lawlessness and power vacuum.  We helped and topple Lybia, and now, refugees are flooding across to Europe. 

You know very well, that when you created the post " Leftist Support homocidal moderates"  - it had little to do with rights of Muslim women worldwide, but more to do with trying to relate moderate Muslim here in Australia with the word 'homocidal'. 

Its very interesting when people on the far right screaming about "turn back the boats, send them all back - woman children no exceptions" + "f off, we are full", and then have the galls to turn around the accuse the people on the left of  "throw them to the wolves".  Talking about hypocrisy. 

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Reply #43 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 1:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:31am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:05am:
They won't if 'leftists' like you continue to support the homicidal 'moderates' that are oppressing them (but refraining from removing your head).



They will. Women always find their feet, it's just that in some cultures it seems almost impossible. It might take Muslim women another 100 years before they liberate themselves, best let them do it on their own terms, at their own pace, without western intervention.

Once again....I do not support homicidal anything, ok?


Yes you do. You even said you would support people who preached the execution of gays in 'church'.

Pansi, imagine that Australian churches did actually start preaching the execution of gays. You would rightly call an idiot someone who insisted we must support these hate preachers in case one of their congregation turns into an extremist and starts executing gays, so that we can be united in our hand wringing with the people encouraging the slaughter.

Yet this is exactly what you are doing with Muslims.

If those women do achieve liberty, it will be despite the efforts of leftists like you. I have often heard that the worst enemy of womens lib is other women trying to bring them down, but I have never seen it writ so large as in your posts. You would literally throw them to the wolves - to what end is anyone's guess.




That's just crazy talk.

I literally couldn't pick a woman up and I literally couldn't throw her.

Do we even have wolves here?

Aya Muhammad...get me wolf now!....ne ne ne!!! no from zoo....you have ze siztra...get....get

....mmm she waz nice girl.....but she want to wear the lip gloss.....ave to kill her.....

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Reply #44 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 1:28pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:59pm:
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If those women do achieve liberty, it will be despite the efforts of leftists like you. I have often heard that the worst enemy of womens lib is other women trying to bring them down, but I have never seen it writ so large as in your posts. You would literally throw them to the wolves - to what end is anyone's guess.


And what does the efforts of right wings like you achieve?  We went to war in Afghanistan to 'liberate' the people.  It did not happen.  Except in regions of the capital cities, which are frequently bombed, many regional areas are still under factional control, some are even worse than Taliban.   We went to war in Iraq, to 'liberate' the people.  It did not happen.  Now ISIL run rampant in the region of lawlessness and power vacuum.  We helped and topple Lybia, and now, refugees are flood across to Europe. 



We know the lefties loved the Taliban.

The constitution of the Rojava cantons show the kurds bought the democracy we were selling in Iraq, the greeted the USA troops by singing the star spangled banner and waving home made USA flags when the USA came to town.
Not a single coalition soldier was killed in Kurdish parts of Iraq, the sunni vs shia sectarian battles did not happen in the Kurdish parts of Iraq.
The Islamic state attacks the kurds,kills the men and rapes and enslaves the women and children.

It was Kevin Rudd who backed UN security council resolution 1973 for Libya, is he right wing or left wing?

Being a leftist must involve some form of mental retardation.
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