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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #60 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 10:12am Quote: If you choose to confuse moderate and mainstream with radicals/fanatics/terrorists that's your problem freediver. Apparently it is yours Pansi. Would you support a Muslim as a "moderate" if he promoted the execution of gays in his mosque?
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Reply #61 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 10:38am

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

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If you choose to confuse moderate and mainstream with radicals/fanatics/terrorists that's your problem freediver.

Apparently it is yours Pansi. Would you support a Muslim as a "moderate" if he promoted the execution of gays in his mosque?

That would depend on how he was promoting it. If for example, he's reading it from the Koran, it wouldn't worry me in the least, it's not like his flock are actually going to do it.

However, if he was telling his flock to go forth and bring back the heads of gays, I'd put him in the fanatical loony bin basket.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #62 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 11:31am So you support moderate Muslims who for example, promote the legal execution of gays, but you stop short of supporting the extremist Muslims who encourage their fellow Muslims to go out and take the law into their own hands?
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Reply #63 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 11:52am

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 11:31am:

So you support moderate Muslims who for example, promote the legal execution of gays, but you stop short of supporting the extremist Muslims who encourage their fellow Muslims to go out and take the law into their own hands?

When you say 'support', actually I don't really support any sort of Muslims, be they 10% Musilman or 95% Musilman. I don't even think about Muslims all that much to be honest.

As far as your everyday Imam goes, if he's reading the stuff from his holy book, he is no more dangerous than a Christian Pastor or Minister reading from his holy book. Those people just parrot that stuff because they want a ticket into the afterlife, they don't follow it to the nth degree.

Look at Longy, he's the worst example of a Christian since Jim Jones....oops! not quite, but you know what I mean.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #64 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 12:22pm So you have no problem with Muslims using Islam to promote the execution of gays, so long as they do it by the book? You think it is important to be on their side and not alienate them?
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Reply #65 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 2:07pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

So you have no problem with Muslims using Islam to promote the execution of gays, so long as they do it by the book? You think it is important to be on their side and not alienate them?

I wouldn't know if all the books and chapters of the Koran are promoted in the mosques....I know for fact the Christian churches shy away from many of the writings in the old testament.

Just because you dwell on the gory bits, doesn't mean they do.

I'm not on anyone's side, I don't care about Islam or any other religion for that matter......I'd ban it all if I could.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41101	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #66 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 3:16pm FD, whats your opinion of Christians who call for the execution or treatment of Gays, often forcibly?
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Reply #67 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 6:31pm

All executions should be voluntary Brian.

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I wouldn't know if all the books and chapters of the Koran are promoted in the mosques....I know for fact the Christian churches shy away from many of the writings in the old testament.

Pansi I am not asking you to tell us what is the real version of Islam. I am asking you where you draw the line in your efforts to redefine moderate so you can support homicidal Muslims.

So you have no problem with Muslims using Islam to promote the execution of gays, so long as they do it by the book? You think it is important to be on their side and not alienate them?

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Reply #68 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am

I don't draw the line, the law does. If they break our laws, they go down, like the rest of us.

If they are homicidal moderates fanatics they will be charged with murder (if they are caught). That's fine by me. NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT.

If the are non-homicidal moderates, that's fine by me.

If they are homicidal terrorists, that a bad thing. Cannot under any circumstances be a moderate.

Fanatical terrorists....bad.

No such animal as moderate terrorists. If they want to wear the terrorist badge, they must be fanatical terrorists.

Moderate Muslims....good like moderate Christians.

Wishy-washy Muslim....good like wishy-washy Christian (seat warmers)

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Reply #69 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 8:50am

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If they are homicidal moderates fanatics they will be charged with murder (if they are caught). That's fine by me. NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT.

They will be charged with murder if they murder someone. If they merely promote the execution of gays 'by the book', they will receive your continued support, right?

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If the are non-homicidal moderates, that's fine by me.

So you draw the line at killing people unlawfully? You will support these Muslims up to that point? It must be terribly convenient having such flexible morals.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #70 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 8:59am It's always a relief to see the moderate Muselmen didn't get you overnight freediver. I don't give a stuff what tripe their book says or what they say. It mustn't be against the law, otherwise ASIO would be onto them like a ton of bricks. Actions speak louder than words.
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Reply #71 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 9:03am

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 8:50am:

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If they are homicidal moderates fanatics they will be charged with murder (if they are caught). That's fine by me. NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT/NO SUPPORT.

They will be charged with murder if they murder someone. If they merely promote the execution of gays 'by the book', they will receive your continued support, right?

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If the are non-homicidal moderates, that's fine by me.

So you draw the line at killing people unlawfully? You will support these Muslims up to that point? It must be terribly convenient having such flexible morals.

lol!!! it's called murder, I've never been a fan of it actually.

Flexible morals???? I see no reason to to judge people that are law abiding citizens.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #72 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 9:16am So if someone calls for the law to be changed so gays can be executed, you would still be on their side? Is the law your only moral compass?
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Reply #73 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 10:36am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

It's always a relief to see the moderate Muselmen didn't get you overnight freediver.

I don't give a stuff what tripe their book says or what they say.

It mustn't be against the law, otherwise ASIO would be onto them like a ton of bricks.

Actions speak louder than words.

pansi,

Every reasonable and sane person [alive in the world today], realises that ISLAM is a murderous death cult, but the political leaders of almost all Western nations 'refuse to speak its name' [for reasons of 'Political Correctness', refuse to publicly acknowledge the truth, of what ISLAM is.]

e.g.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1436013837

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421158879/6#6

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FURTHER;

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15
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You mean that we [infidels, on OzPol] are guilty of 'stereotyping' members of the Australian mainstream moslem community!!!!

Shock horror!!!!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....moslems!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....ISLAM [and with ISLAM's laws and tenets] !

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #74 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 4:53pm a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ? What utter rubbish. If that was the case they'd all be lopping heads off, but a very minute percentage of Muslims do. What was I saying about extremist maniacs?
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