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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #75 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 6:52pm Pansi, if someone calls for the law to be changed so gays can be executed, would you still be on their side? Is the law your only moral compass?
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Reply #76 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:04pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 6^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

No pansy ... that's those who support & or follow the radical/fundmentalist views ...

on Sharia Law, polygamy, wearing full burkha, women not driving, stoning women for adultery or being raped, non education rights to women, child marriage, religious & infidel intolerance etc etc

Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.

Do the maths. 400 million out of 1.6 billion is a minority.

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Reply #77 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:32pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

Every reasonable and sane person [alive in the world today], realises that ISLAM is a murderous death cult,
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Tell me. How many murders did Muhammad Ali, (previously Cassius Clay), commit after his conversion to Islam?

Give us the figures for the last 50 years on how many of the millions of moslems living in Europe and the Americas have committed murder in the name of their faith.

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Reply #78 - Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:59pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

What utter rubbish. If that was the case they'd all be lopping heads off, but a very minute percentage of Muslims do.

What was I saying about extremist maniacs?

I do not know.

What were you saying about extremist maniacs, ....pansi ??????????

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Moslem child, on the streets of London, demonstrating that he understands the basics of his faith - Mohammedanism

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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"Behead all those who insult the Prophet"

The result of children, being under the influence of 'Aussie' moslems - Sydney, 2012

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"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

The influence of ISLAM's hatred [for non-moslems], in the homes of moslems;

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February 18, 2008
UK jihadist taught five-year-old son: "Kuffar -- kill! Sheikh Osama bin Laden I love"

......"Who do you kill?" asked Khan.
"America kill," said the boy.
"Who else you kill?" said Khan.
"Bush I kill," said the boy.
"And who else?" demanded Khan.
"Blair kill, both people kill."
"Who else you kill?" asked Khan.
"Saddam, Saddam," said the boy.
Then the pair began chanting at each other.
Khan said: "Kuffar [non-believers]" the boy said: "Kill."
Khan said: "Mushrik [polytheists]" and the boy said: "Kill."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/02/uk-jihadist-taught-five-year-old-son-kuffar---...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/18/nkidnap218.xml

Of course, ISLAM/moslems sanction such indoctrination of hatred of non-moslems [the hatred towards what is not ISLAM], in moslem children, as 'normal'.

ISLAMIC doctrines teach moslems, that infidels who are not [actual] human beings [in the eyes of Allah] - because the infidels are not moslems!

"Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve."
Koran 8.55

Google;

vilest of creatures, koran

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #79 - Jul 13^th, 2015 at 7:10am

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Pansi, if someone calls for the law to be changed so gays can be executed, would you still be on their side? Is the law your only moral compass?

My conscience is my moral compass.

I already said I'm not on anyone's side. How many ways can you ask the same silly question?

I already said no executions, not even in the name of the state, that means the death penalty.

I am anti death....apart from natural causes, euthanasia and accident.

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Reply #80 - Jul 13^th, 2015 at 7:15pm

Radical wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 11:04pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 6^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

No pansy ... that's those who support & or follow the radical/fundmentalist views ...

on Sharia Law, polygamy, wearing full burkha, women not driving, stoning women for adultery or being raped, non education rights to women, child marriage, religious & infidel intolerance etc etc

Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.

Do the maths. 400 million out of 1.6 billion is a minority.

Great. So less than half of the world's Muslims are homicidal lunatics. That's reassuring.

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My conscience is my moral compass.

So why do you keep defering to the law as your moral compass instead of making a judgement on what is a crystal clear issue for most civilised people?

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I already said I'm not on anyone's side. How many ways can you ask the same silly question?

So what does your moral compass say to you about people who promote the legal execution of gays when down at the mosque, but are otherwise getting on with life, working, struggling to pay rent or mortgage, bringing up their children? That they are part of the 'mainstream majority' you feel compelled to defend?

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I already said no executions

So did I Pansi. Do you want me to repeat the question? Perhaps I need to find a few different ways to ask it?

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Reply #81 - Jul 14^th, 2015 at 12:06am

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Remember that's out of 1.6 billion Muslims.

Do the maths. 400 million out of 1.6 billion is a minority.

Great. So less than half of the world's Muslims are homicidal lunatics. That's reassuring.

Merely pointing out that 25% is clearly a minority.

Having the need to suggest that 25% is not a minority suggests the author has a need for gross exaggeration because his/her argument does not stack up. Inferring that there are 400 million homicidal maniacs on the loose around the globe confirms a similar need for exaggeration.

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Reply #82 - Jul 14^th, 2015 at 7:04am

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

So what does your moral compass say to you about people who promote the legal execution of gays when down at the mosque, but are otherwise getting on with life, working, struggling to pay rent or mortgage, bringing up their children? That they are part of the 'mainstream majority' you feel compelled to defend?

My moral compass on that one hardly moves.

I totally don't give a stuff what they say down at the mosque, they're not carrying the talk through so it doesn't matter.

I wonder how many Imam's promote the slaughter of gays anyway, probably very few, I doubt they'd dwell on it as much as you do.

They say it but they don't do it and neither does their followers.

How many Christians tithe 10% of their earnings? very few I can tell you. I saw a few $5, $10 and $20 notes going in the bag but that's not 10%....see they talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

Bottom line

I don't care what they say, it's all talk.

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Reply #83 - Jul 14^th, 2015 at 12:42pm

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I totally don't give a stuff what they say down at the mosque, they're not carrying the talk through so it doesn't matter.

So your moral compass doesn't even register Muslims promoting the execution of gays? What about if Nazis started promoting the gassing of Jews, would you be standing on the sidelines telling people that everything is fine up until the first pellets drop?

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I wonder how many Imam's promote the slaughter of gays anyway, probably very few, I doubt they'd dwell on it as much as you do.

It is your response I am dwelling on Pansi.

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They say it but they don't do it and neither does their followers.

Except of course, when they do. I'd hate to see what those 100 or so Aussie Muslims rampaging across the middle east would do with any gays they find.

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How many Christians tithe 10% of their earnings? very few I can tell you. I saw a few $5, $10 and $20 notes going in the bag but that's not 10%....see they talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

I actually used to go spearing with a bloke who tithed his income. That was after tax, I think. And of course we have seen enough Muslims here who support the execution of gays. Even Gandalf can't seem to make up his mind on that one. But still you insist there is nothing wrong or immoral with this.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #84 - Jul 14^th, 2015 at 1:18pm Like I said, I don't care what they sprout, it's all talk. Of course it's a weird thing to say, but there's even a couple of posters on here that have some immoral things to say about gays, but it's just words and it's not against the law......until they put those words into action.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48851 At my desk.	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #85 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 10:06pm I am not asking you to tell me what the law says pansi. I am asking you which way your moral compass points. Let me know when it stops spinning.
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Reply #86 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:50am

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

I am not asking you to tell me what the law says pansi. I am asking you which way your moral compass points. Let me know when it stops spinning.

I don't care what any religion sprouts, it's all talk in my opinion.

Get it freediver?

my moral compass has stopped spinning

is pointing directly to

DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY

THE END

you are boring me to death

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Reply #87 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 8:16am

It's pretty obvious pansi that you are supporting freedom of speech (without directly saying so) which, of itself is a worthy and noteable position to take in the modern world.... As you say, it is just words.

I guess then the real question is, why doesn't FD promote freedom of speech? Odd thing really.

I know he will now throw some relativism at the argument, once again to denounce free speech.

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Reply #88 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 3:01pm

freediver wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.

Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?

Are you saying you would personally kill people who or may not may pose a murderous threat in the future?

I'm keen to know what you think, FD.

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Reply #89 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 3:07pm

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 12:42pm:

Even Gandalf can't seem to make up his mind on that one. But still you insist there is nothing wrong or immoral with this.

But FD, Gandalf has been very clear that he doesn't support killing hommersexuals. He's told you that at least a hundred times over the last 3 years.

But still you insist that there is nothing wrong or immoral about your porkies.

Cunning, no?

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