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leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:29am

A very interesting discussion...

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 6:35pm:

A bigot is someone who disagrees with Greg. Same with Islamophobe.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Abbott's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't do something. I know the Greens and some in the Labor party would love IS to take over, given they both hate Western civilisation. What do you prefer, buddy, Western values or IS values?

They don't. It's just a myth or maybe Andrew Bolt said it.

Actually most of the ISIS fighters don't even like ISIS, they try to do a runner when they get half a chance.

Maybe once all the fanatical Muslims have had a turn ISIS will disintegrate, give it time and stay calm.

Who hates western civilisation?

Please, just one person on this forum, come forward and confess your love for ISIS.

Yawn. Is lying part of lefty DNA? Lefties come from every where to defend radicals, and they'll do it in the future again and again and again.

No they don't.

Lefties defend mainstream Muslims that are getting on with life, working, struggling to pay rent or mortgage, bringing up their children, going to their mosque (if the practice their faith) and so they should.

What if in addition to this, they believe homosexuals should be executed?

You mean like some of the right whingers on here? They're all talk.

The fundamentalists of any religion will do you in if you look sideways at them. The only reason they need is that you're not one of them.

The moderates might threaten it in church but they never carry through with it, they're just happy that eventually you'll come face to face with lucifer, that keeps them happy.

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 1^st, 2015 at 7:38am:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

So Lefties defend "moderates" who merely desire to execute Gays but limit their propaganda to the appropriate place and are unlikely (you hope) to follow through?

My idea of a moderate Muslim is your everyday variety, exactly the same as your moderate Christian.....

pops into church once a week

doesn't swear

believes in God

prays to God

tries to obey the teachings

lives a wholesome life

So it is not actually any kind of moderation on their part, beyond refraining from personally killing people. Rather, leftists define moderate Muslims by being steadfastly ignorant of what those Muslims believe. Thus leftists can come to the defense of Muslims who want gays executed and who want a new Islamic state of rape and pillage.

Presumably, they have been scared into defending 'bad' Muslims by the 'even worse' Muslims. Thus, the best way to get leftists to support climate denialists, gay bashers, welfare opponents etc is to blow something up. Then the leftists will be forced to willfully ignore all the objectionable views held by any conservative in the interests of maintaining the facade of unity against an ever shrinking 'real enemy'.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #1 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:34am The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #2 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:36am Come on pansi why don't you just admit it, you want to be an ISIS bride along with Kat.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #3 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:39am Are there any non homicidal moderates, freediver, in your opinion?
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Reply #4 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:43am

It is an interesting conversation. It highlights just how clueless Misty/culture warrior is.

(someone has an identity issue)

You want to see homicidal moderates, go visit political animal and have a look at all the righties who threaten to 'kick your head in' because you're not a 'rightie'.

The problem with some on here is that they see defending 'ones right to peacefully follow whatever religion they like' and 'refusing to tarnish all muslims with one brush' as somehow being the same as supporting ISIS. Sorry, but if they're that stupid that they can't tell the difference, let them think what they like.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #5 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:48am innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:36am: Come on pansi why don't you just admit it, you want to be an ISIS bride along with Kat. pansi already has her veil...she wants to be a mail order bride..not sure about kat I think he will take anyone as long as they pay the fare...
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Reply #6 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 10:01am

cods wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

Come on pansi why don't you just admit it, you want to be an ISIS bride along with Kat.

pansi already has her veil...she wants to be a mail order bride..not sure about kat I think he will take anyone as long as they pay the fare...

It's not funny cods, my veil is yellowing with age and I'm still waiting for my ticket. Sometimes I wonder if my turn will ever come, especially after that nasty ISIS man said ' aya too ole dam you me yah!'.....I might end up being the

bride of Frankenstein

don't get me wrong, I like him but it's not love at first sight.

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Reply #7 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am

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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.

Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 3:38pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 7:01pm: The fundamentalists of any religion will do you in if you look sideways at them. The only reason they need is that you're not one of them. Sounds more like trade unionism....
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #9 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 4:15pm ____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:39am: Are there any non homicidal moderates, freediver, in your opinion? Yeah, the non-practicing ones (ie apostates). The Blacktown MP describes himself as a "non-practicing" Muslim.
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Reply #10 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 5:25pm

Soren wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

Are there any non homicidal moderates, freediver, in your opinion?

Yeah, the non-practicing ones (ie apostates).

The Blacktown MP describes himself as a "non-practicing" Muslim.

I HAVE A VERY, VERY SERIOUS QUESTION,

for all persons like Ed Husic;

In what practical 'sense', is a "non-practicing" moslem, a moslem, if he has publicly renounced the primary doctrinal obligation, of what being a moslem, entails ???

Because Allah's messenger declares that a 'moslem' who's intention it is, to avoid participating in hot Jihad, is a hypocrite, aka an infidel!

And Allah himself declares that a 'moslem' who hinders others from the path of the Cause of Allah [i.e. from participating in hot Jihad], is a hypocrite, aka an infidel!

Quote:

'Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy,'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2632768/Brisbane-woman-charged-supportin...
- Australian moslem, Mohamed Elomar, quoting ISLAMIC scripture

Google;
"Allah's Messenger said" "Whosoever dies without participating"

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari #001.002.025

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari #004.052.065
hadith/bukhari #004.052.080i

"Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger! Those who disbelieve and hinder men from the Cause of Allah, He will not pardon. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace. You have the upper hand.
Koran 47.33-35

BUT THERE IS MORE!!!! -------- >

FOR MOSLEMS, THERE IS A 'GET OUT OF GAOL FREE' CARD !!!!!

All the moslem has to do, is to claim that he was merely deceiving infidels, in pretending to reject the Cause of Allah, and he is off the hook !!!

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430227148/14#14
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ISLAM is a philosophy which promotes and encourages moslems [who live within a stronger non-moslem jurisdiction] to engage in a relationship of veiled hostility towards that non-moslem jurisdiction.

And then, when many moslem individuals 'fail to thrive' within any non-moslem jurisdiction, the moslem community en-masse claim victimhood status, and insistently claim that moslems are the victims of hostility and prejudice from non-moslems.

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July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

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A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

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How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #11 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 5:33pm The same way people claim to be Christian yet never go to church.
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Reply #12 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm

freediver wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.

Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?

I'm a peaceful person, I don't support violence of any sort whether it be with Rastifarians, Christians, Athiests or Muslims.

The last thing I'd want to do is get mixed up in some crazy religious argument, in my opinion, they're all nuts, but I still believe you can follow Islam without committing murder and mayhem.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates' Reply #13 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 6:01pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 5:33pm: The same way people claim to be Christian yet never go to church. That's silly talk. You don't have to go anywhere near a church to follow the teachings of Christ. You claim to go to church but you don't follow the teachings of Christ.
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Reply #14 - Jul 4^th, 2015 at 6:11pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

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The moderates are not homicidal, you'd know about it if they were, there'd be heads hacked off left, right and centre.

Interesting dichotomy their pansi.

Homicidal does not have to mean stupid and self destructive. Islam supposedly forbids Muslims from starting a fight they cannot win.

Are you suggesting that you would support anyone, no matter how objectionable their political views, so long as they stop short of personally killing people this instant?

I'm a peaceful person, I don't support violence of any sort whether it be with Rastifarians, Christians, Athiests or Muslims.

The last thing I'd want to do is get mixed up in some crazy religious argument, in my opinion, they're all nuts, but I still believe you can follow Islam without committing murder and mayhem.

Of course you bloody well can. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous ... like this thread.

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