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Reply #90 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 9:12pm

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I don't care what any religion sprouts, it's all talk in my opinion.
Get it freediver?

What about when they start posting videos of their war crimes on the internet because it is such a wonderful recruiting tool for their co-religionists? Is that all talk?

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my moral compass has stopped spinning
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DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY

So promoting the execution of gays is neither moral nor immoral in your opinion?

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It's pretty obvious pansi that you are supporting freedom of speech (without directly saying so) which, of itself is a worthy and noteable position to take in the modern world.... As you say, it is just words.
I guess then the real question is, why doesn't FD promote freedom of speech? Odd thing really.

I am not asking what we should be permitted to say Phem.

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But FD, Gandalf has been very clear that he doesn't support killing hommersexuals.

He has been the opposite of clear. The closest he came to giving a straight answer was using his own words to discredit his own words, and to insist over several pages that I lied about what he said because he posted several contradictory views.

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Re: leftists support homicidal 'moderates'
Reply #91 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 5:37pm

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:

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I don't care what any religion sprouts, it's all talk in my opinion.
Get it freediver?

What about when they start posting videos of their war crimes on the internet because it is such a wonderful recruiting tool for their co-religionists? Is that all talk?

That's ISIS, they are terrorists, not moderate Muslims. The world hates those terrorist idiots

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my moral compass has stopped spinning
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DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY

So promoting the execution of gays is neither moral nor immoral in your opinion?

I'm not getting into the immoral or moral aspect of gay execution talk, but I'll tell you what I think is immoral, marrying young girls and female circumcision, it's grose and disgusting, and it's also against OUR laws here in Oz.

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It's pretty obvious pansi that you are supporting freedom of speech (without directly saying so) which, of itself is a worthy and noteable position to take in the modern world.... As you say, it is just words.
I guess then the real question is, why doesn't FD promote freedom of speech? Odd thing really.

I am not asking what we should be permitted to say Phem.

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But FD, Gandalf has been very clear that he doesn't support killing hommersexuals.

He has been the opposite of clear. The closest he came to giving a straight answer was using his own words to discredit his own words, and to insist over several pages that I lied about what he said because he posted several contradictory views.

Freediver, one minute you're talking about moderate Muslims, then you go on about ISIS terrorist acts. You cannot compare moderates whom may preach disturbing stuff with the maniacal terrorists who are chopping heads off.

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Reply #92 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 10:23pm

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That's ISIS, they are terrorists, not moderate Muslims. The world hates those terrorist idiots

So you are happy with the talk, because it is "all talk," right up until they actually start chopping people's heads off, at which point you object to them breaking the law?

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I'm not getting into the immoral or moral aspect of gay execution talk

That's what this thread is about Pansi, in case you hadn't noticed.

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Freediver, one minute you're talking about moderate Muslims, then you go on about ISIS terrorist acts. You cannot compare moderates whom may preach disturbing stuff with the maniacal terrorists who are chopping heads off.

Pick any one of the 100 or so Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east. Before they left, you would have insisted they were moderates and deserving of your support, because their talk of killing people was "all talk." It is always "all talk" until it isn't.

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Reply #93 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 9:22am

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 10:23pm:

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That's ISIS, they are terrorists, not moderate Muslims. The world hates those terrorist idiots

So you are happy with the talk, because it is "all talk," right up until they actually start chopping people's heads off, at which point you object to them breaking the law?

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I'm not getting into the immoral or moral aspect of gay execution talk

That's what this thread is about Pansi, in case you hadn't noticed.

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Freediver, one minute you're talking about moderate Muslims, then you go on about ISIS terrorist acts. You cannot compare moderates whom may preach disturbing stuff with the maniacal terrorists who are chopping heads off.

Pick any one of the 100 or so Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across the middle east. Before they left, you would have insisted they were moderates and deserving of your support, because their talk of killing people was "all talk." It is always "all talk" until it isn't.

That's right. It's always 'all talk' until it isn't and at that point it becomes terrorism. The 100 Aussie Muslim terrorists will not be coming back, apparently. They will either be killed by their own people or left to make some sort of life in the hell hole they went to or some other similar country if they can get there.

You do trust ASIO to do their job efficiently, don't you?

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Reply #95 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:18am

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

Or more to the point, why are you incapable of telling porkies about these people that they want to start hacking people’s heads off?

That’s what FD’s moral compass is getting at.

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Reply #96 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:45am

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

I've got more important things to do than criticise than a few Muzzies chanting obscenities in a mosque.....like why are we allowing prime agricultural land to be mined? or why is this country lagging behind the rest of the world on technology or why do politicians spend so much of taxpayers money on themselves, there's heaps then right near the bottom of my business we have Muzzies, Mosques and Islam.

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Reply #97 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:49am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

I've got more important things to do than criticise than a few Muzzies chanting obscenities in a mosque.....like why are we allowing prime agricultural land to be mined? or why is this country lagging behind the rest of the world on technology or why do politicians spend so much of taxpayers money on themselves, there's heaps then right near the bottom of my business we have Muzzies, Mosques and Islam.

The thing is, they don’t shout obscenties in mosques. That’s just what FD wants you to think. You know, his moral compass and everything.

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Reply #98 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:59am

Karnal wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

I've got more important things to do than criticise than a few Muzzies chanting obscenities in a mosque.....like why are we allowing prime agricultural land to be mined? or why is this country lagging behind the rest of the world on technology or why do politicians spend so much of taxpayers money on themselves, there's heaps then right near the bottom of my business we have Muzzies, Mosques and Islam.

The thing is, they don’t shout obscenties in mosques. That’s just what FD wants you to think. You know, his moral compass and everything.

Freediver got carried along in the right wing terrorist fear rhetoric, he's scared because he's been told over and over again to be scared.

They're coming for us, Tony said so.

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Reply #99 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

I've got more important things to do than criticise than a few Muzzies chanting obscenities in a mosque.....like why are we allowing prime agricultural land to be mined? or why is this country lagging behind the rest of the world on technology or why do politicians spend so much of taxpayers money on themselves, there's heaps then right near the bottom of my business we have Muzzies, Mosques and Islam.

But you don't Pansi. You seem to think it is important to keep reminding people that you will defend "moderates," even when they promote the execution of gays. You will do it in the future again and again - your own words. You are not refraining from criticism out of lack of interest, but out of actual support for these people. You feign lack of interest now, but only because the issue has become your own apparent lack of moral compass.

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Reply #100 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:50am

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

That still leaves the issue of where your moral compass is pointing. Why are you incapable of criticising these people until they start hacking people's heads off?

I've got more important things to do than criticise than a few Muzzies chanting obscenities in a mosque.....like why are we allowing prime agricultural land to be mined? or why is this country lagging behind the rest of the world on technology or why do politicians spend so much of taxpayers money on themselves, there's heaps then right near the bottom of my business we have Muzzies, Mosques and Islam.

But you don't Pansi. You seem to think it is important to keep reminding people that you will defend "moderates," even when they promote the execution of gays. You will do it in the future again and again - your own words. You are not refraining from criticism out of lack of interest, but out of actual support for these people. You feign lack of interest now, but only because the issue has become your own apparent lack of moral compass.

I don't spend much time thinking or talking about Islam or Muslims, I'm not obsessed with every little thing they say.

How many are saying this?

You give me some answers to the actual numbers of Imams that are promoting the execution of gays in Australia.

I want to know what percentage of Mosques are promoting this on a regular basis.

I would be surprised if it's more than a few fanatical Imam's that promote this stuff......storm in a teacup freediver.

Have you actually been to a mosque and listened for yourself? Would you know what they're saying when you don't speak Arabic? Have you done any actual research or do you just believe the MSM and the fear mongering promoted by dear leader?

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Reply #101 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:02am

So........how many Christians are executing gays? It's in their holy book too, but they don't all run around the streets on Sunday afternoons rounding up gays and killing them.

As I said, silly words written by some old codgers in the dark ages.

Is the Christian version ok freediver?

"Well the Bible teaches actually that gays should be executed.

Because it actually says in Leviticus 20:13 that if a man also lie with mankind as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them,"

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Reply #102 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:22am

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How many are saying this?

Would it matter? Does your moral compass somehow depend on the popularity of a movement?

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Have you actually been to a mosque and listened for yourself? Would you know what they're saying when you don't speak Arabic? Have you done any actual research or do you just believe the MSM and the fear mongering promoted by dear leader?

This is about your views Pansi. I don't have to know anything at all about them to question what you post here. It would be disturbing if you were defending one Muslim or a billion of them.

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Reply #103 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

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How many are saying this?

Would it matter? Does your moral compass somehow depend on the popularity of a movement?

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Have you actually been to a mosque and listened for yourself? Would you know what they're saying when you don't speak Arabic? Have you done any actual research or do you just believe the MSM and the fear mongering promoted by dear leader?

This is about your views Pansi. I don't have to know anything at all about them to question what you post here. It would be disturbing if you were defending one Muslim or a billion of them.

It would certainly be disturbing if I was defending one terrorist, but I'm not, so please do not be disturbed.

It's also disturbing that you blame innocent people for the actions of a few.

Anyway, my Muslim friends are cool and I intend to fully support them, if there comes a time when they are treated unfairly by people like you and the 200 protesters that were out sprouting their hatred and bigotry yesterday.

"Well the Bible teaches actually that gays should be executed.

Because it actually says in Leviticus 20:13 that if a man also lie with mankind as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them,"

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