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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Love God, Keep his commandments = Christian Reply #15 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 1:38am As you say Yadda scripture doesn't lie. It clearly shows your god is a fan of killing kids
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: Love God, Keep his commandments = Christian Reply #16 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 7:13pm I feel its time for another "it doesn't mean what it says" I love the fact that Yadda still refuses to agree that Islam may differ from his personal literal interpretation, while rejecting all the literal interpretations of his chosen creed as ignorant. It just doesn't mean what it says.
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Reply #17 - Sep 11^th, 2015 at 8:02pm

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....scripture doesn't lie.

Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Some/many people say; "Rubbish!"

That is their choice.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Love God, Keep his commandments = Christian Reply #18 - Sep 11^th, 2015 at 9:39pm Yadda wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 8:02pm: Fear God Damn you should, otherwise he'll kill your kids
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Reply #19 - Sep 13^th, 2015 at 12:21am

Raven wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 8:02pm:

Fear God

Damn you should, otherwise he'll kill your kids

Matthew 10:28
....fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Of course the only thing atheists have to fear, is having to look at that lid for all of eternity.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #20 - Dec 15^th, 2015 at 6:21pm

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Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as "Holiday Trees" for the first time this year which prompted CBS presenter, Steven Levy, to present this piece which I would like to share with you.

I think it applies just as much to many countries as it does to America.

The following was written by Steven Levy and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:

"I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.

I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around".

I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country.

I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat...

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him?

I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.

But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:

This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

In light of recent events... Terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc..

I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.

The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself.

And we said OK.

Then Dr. Steven Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).

We said an expert should know what he's talking about.

And we said okay..

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.

I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.

Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how we can trash the bible which says to love even your enemies, but welcome a religion which says to kill all who will not submit.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

Google

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Where did we go wrong ?

Or is your opinion, that we did not 'go wrong' ?

Psalms 9:16
The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Not true ???

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
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Just a suggestion;

In some quiet time alone....

Read the Book of Proverbs [in the Bible].

And then, if after reading it, you come think that you agree with its words, and agree, that what it suggests makes sense, ...then encourage your children too, to read it, and to try to live by the precepts which it suggests.

- Yadda

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We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
- Aristotle

"It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."
- Professor Dumbledore
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

There is nothing that is wrong, that cannot be remedied, by doing what is right.
- ?

Our job is to live as well and as long as we can, and to help others do the same.
- ?

"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman

"The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible."
Dwight L. Moody (American Evangelist, 1837-1899)

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Deuteronomy 11:19
And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Deuteronomy 32:46
And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto all the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, all the words of this law.
47 For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #21 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 5:09am

Yadda wrote on Sep 13^th, 2015 at 12:21am:

Raven wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 8:02pm:

Fear God

Damn you should, otherwise he'll kill your kids

Matthew 10:28
....fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Of course the only thing atheists have to fear, is having to look at that lid for all of eternity.

Ahh of course, it is ok for children to be raped and murdered in this life because they'll have a better one in in the next.

What a load of s.hit Yadda

Gotta say your God has an awesome PR agent. Something good happens its gods will. Something bad happens, well he works in mysterious ways.

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Reply #22 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 1:38pm

Raven wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 5:09am:

Ahh of course, it is ok for children to be raped and murdered in this life because they'll have a better one in in the next.

What a load of s.hit Yadda

Gotta say your God has an awesome PR agent. Something good happens its gods will. Something bad happens, well he works in mysterious ways.

Where did i say that it is OK, to murder, anyone ?

[And if there is a 'God'], ...is it God's fault, when anyone dies, or suffers ?

Raven,

You are 'of those' who refuse to take responsibility.

Responsibility, for what ?

Responsibility, for the consequences of your own poor choices.

Until we come to that place, where we choose to accept responsibility, .....nothing will change in our life.

Yadda said [in 2009]....
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We [mankind] inhabit this physical world.

And we have been given free will, to exercise choice in all of our actions.

And yet, whenever ppl like Bush [a self declared Christian], Hitler [who murdered Christians], or Stalin [an atheist] kill ppl, it is always laid at the feet of God.

"Why does God allow such evil?"

Why?

Because we [mankind] have free choice.
......free choice to do good OR evil.

We got suckered into this situ....

i.e. '....and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil'

And what are WE choosing, what have WE always chosen.
....self interest, selfishness, BEFORE selfless-ness.

And yet, when it all goes wrong [i.e. the consequences of OUR choices], IT IS ALWAYS [somehow] GOD'S FAULT.

Sure.

Believe that, if it pleases you.

Raven,

Why does God allow evil [things] to happen?

THAT IS THE WRONG QUESTION!

The right question is;

Why do >> we << choose, to not separate ourselves from evil [which we see all around us] ?

Why do >> we << choose, to not try to, separate ourselves from evil [which we see all around us] ?

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We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
- Aristotle

"It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."
- Professor Dumbledore
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

There is nothing that is wrong, that cannot be remedied, by doing what is right.
- ?

"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman

James 4:1
From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

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Reply #23 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 2:41pm

|dev|null wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 10:57am:

You really are an Old Testament Christian, aren't you?

Forgotton what the New Testament taught? Tsk, tsk. A truly revolutionary message and you ignore it 'cause it's too hard... Grin

God's Word, it is all good.

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his....

Ephesians 5:9
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Again, God's Word, ....it is all good.

But it is no good trying to convince the rebellious spirit of that fact.

That person who has joined with that spirit which hates God.

Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Psalms 25:12
What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13 His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

Isaiah 10:20
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

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Reply #25 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 3:38pm

I'm not a church goer, only go Easter, Christmas and then weddings, christenings and of course there's death.

I believe in God its about the only rational thing that makes sense to me compared to the big bang, worms, apes and monkeys.

The ten commandments can be all summed in two phrases Jesus said.

1. " Love God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength"

That I can do easily for I have felt that the Lord has helped me in my life.

2. " Love your neighbour as you love yourself "

I try hard with the second one but sometimes, stupid is what stupid does and sometimes I just cant help myself with stupid people.

Do these two and you can never break any of the ten commandments.

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Reply #26 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 5:04pm

Ajax wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

I'm not a church goer, only go Easter, Christmas and then weddings, christenings and of course there's death.

I believe in God its about the only rational thing that makes sense to me compared to the big bang, worms, apes and monkeys.

The ten commandments can be all summed in two phrases Jesus said.

1. " Love God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength"

That I can do easily for I have felt that the Lord has helped me in my life.

2. " Love your neighbour as you love yourself "

I try hard with the second one but sometimes, stupid is what stupid does and sometimes I just cant help myself with stupid people.

Do these two and you can never break any of the ten commandments.

Well said, Ajax.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Love God, Keep his commandments = Christian Reply #28 - Mar 12^th, 2016 at 8:26pm Ajax wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 3:38pm: I believe in God its about the only rational thing that makes sense to me compared to the big bang, worms, apes and monkeys. Yes, making a person from a rib is entirely rational.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Love God, Keep his commandments = Christian Reply #29 - Mar 12^th, 2016 at 8:28pm ou still never really answer the question though do you. If the Bible is the true word of God and has to be followed at all costs, you can't pick and choose which laws you like and which you dont
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