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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #105 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:35am

boxy wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 9:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 6:38am:

boxy wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:43pm:

The Alamo is a long way from the equator, in the northern hemisphere, and the circular pattern is right on the horizon. What's your point?

many blessings

in a globe earth it would be impossible to see that pattern around polaris

from near the equator ..

you should only be able to see that pattern directly at the nth pole

it would / should / could not appear in that geometrical construct at the equator .. in this factual reality

Not at all. It's just that the closer you get to the equator, the closer the circular pattern gets to the horizon (as evidenced by your snap shots). From the poles, the circle is overhead.

If the guy taking the picture in Arizona had focused his lens directly above his head (instead of at the northern horizon), the stars would have been moving in an almost straight line, east to west.

incorrect boxy ,you have been exposed as a no logic poster on this topic

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in a globe earth it would be impossible to see that pattern around polaris

from near the equator ..

you should only be able to see that pattern directly at the nth pole

it would / should / could not appear in that geometrical construct at the equator .. in this factual reality

the earth is supposedly revolving at 1000 mph +

pls explain the anomaly , you have one more chance

or you have failed in your globe earth theory

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #106 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:38am

0ktema wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 11:30pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

it would appear that sir bobby and oktema have failed miserably , and so they are excused for they know not this topic of discussion

they merely repeat non logic and this is a frequent occurrence for ones such as they are yet dry your eyes beloveds

"it_is_the_light" you've drunk the kool-aid and are not excused. You've been well and truly duped and now promote this Flat Earth disinformation. You are complicit (whether consciously or not) in distracting attention away from the consideration of truly important issues.

I had a sense about what was possibly going on with these types of highly illogical conspiracy theories when I posted in the "Port Arthur Saga" thread ...

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I'm sure there are "real" conspiracies both past and present.
However - what if the biggest conspiracy of all was the setting up of numerous false conspiracies to help mask the true ones!

As such the following made for an interesting read ...

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FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’: The Ultimate PSYOP Wages War Against The Truth Movement

The Flat Earth Theory is not a theory at all; rather, it is a meticulously engineered hoax that is zealously advanced on the Internet by a rogue government black operation known as the Flat Earth Society. Their central goals and purposes are numerous and by no means mutually exclusive.

However, there is one goal in particular that reigns absolutely supreme on their “deliberate agenda of disruption”: To so discredit every other truth movement by infiltrating them with their utter babble. In this fashion the Flat Earthers seek to bring down the real truthers by the mere association with their fallacious and preposterous drivel.

If ever there was a PSYOP designed to distract, divert and misdirect, the thoroughly insane Flat Earth Theory (FET) is the one. Never in the history of black operations have the co-conspirators been so fierce and fanatical in their mission to deceive and dupe.

First Comment from Ingmor:

About 1 year ago, conspiracy youtubers started getting flooded with flat earth video recommendations even though they had previously never watched a flat earth video in their life. Cass Sunstein, left, chief Obama administration propagandist describes this technique in his book "Nudge." The technique is to target groups whose opinion they want to shape and gently nudge in the certain directions with several techniques. These include infiltrators and internet forums or comments sections of articles as well as using connections with websites such as youtube to give people recommendations based on their data to push them where they need to go.

Up until now on youtube, this has been most notably used for pushing the reptillian story as well as other bizarre new age conspiracy angles to make people discredit themselves when talking about truth as well getting lost in labyrinths of insanity. It has also been used for other topics such as global warming, zionism, and alternative health (which Sunstein specifically mentions in his book). It is important that the nudging is gentle and incremental.

I have come across many people who just one year ago were speaking serious truths. Now all they want to talk about is the flat earth, something of no consequence compared to the murder of almost all of humanity.

These people have been NEUTRALIZED

Makow comment: I think they have made their point. A lot of so-called "Truthers" are mentally unstable. Pilots would have flown over the edge and under the disc long ago.

David Livingstone: "I think it's pretty obvious what it's designed to do: the absorb the "truth" community in complete nonsense. But such utter nonsense that it will completely discredit anyone nearly associated with it. Talk about 9/11 now, or the Illuminati, or Bilderberg and you can be denounced as a "flat earther". ...

http://henrymakow.com/2016/02/Flat-Earth-Psyop.html

many blessings oktema

you are quite the conspiracy theorist ..

you still avoid questions 1. and 2. and as such you are excused

you cannot answer the questions so search for some straws to grasp

you may move along and watch footy or something that will engage your intellect

we are looking for answers here

answers you do not possess

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #107 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 11:43am

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:38am:

many blessings oktema

you are quite the conspiracy theorist ..

you still avoid questions 1. and 2. and as such you are excused

you cannot answer the questions so search for some straws to grasp

you may move along and watch footy or something that will engage your intellect

we are looking for answers here

answers you do not possess

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

namaste

Unfortunately it wouldn't mater what I gave in answer to your inane regurgitation's, you would merely class them as illogical (whilst providing no real evidence for your own stance) or you would simply ignore them all together.

The pinnacle of your achievements in this thread would seem to be your ability to reply directly from your "Flat Earth Manual" like some cyborg.

Therefore You are exposed. You are either a paid shill or proving to be one of the bigger of the various dopes I have come across on the internet.

Wink

Perhaps your pyramid is tuned incorrectly and picking up signals from PSYOP central. Whatever your angle your karma will eventually catch up with you no-mater how many quotes from Gandhi you post.

By the way rather than Gandhi, the true genesis for the quote " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win " actually appears to come from an American labor organizer named Nicholas Klein who was making a speech at a convention in 1918.

http://factually.gizmodo.com/7-gandhi-quotes-that-are-totally-fake-1716503435

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1128903-first-they-ignore-you-then-they-laugh-at...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/billionaire-magazine-fake-gandhi-quote_us...

Frankly it's quite sad to think that you find the need to carry on the way you do. Muddying the waters is a lowly trade.

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #108 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 5:57pm

many blessings unto all hearts

yet no poster has yet answered the 2 questions .. so what is it .

no google searches to repeat ?

this is an anomaly in your reality

and many seem upset to the point of tears , and side track their focus and magnify inanity

this is observed with forgiveness so dry your eyes beloved beings

for the lord has granted unto thee patience , and now

let us have your answer to these 2 simple questions

answers it would appear , you do not possess

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

such a simple and logical observation yet what happens when these 2 questions are posed

inane banter and offtopic retardationalistical abuse

stay on topic or leave this thread and take your sour non logical grapes with thee in thine failure .

all are loved so fear not

in the divine and sacred light

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #109 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:20pm

it_is_the_light you posted the following "2 Suns Prophecy" back in 2011 and then went on to put people down (in your own special holier than thou way) for daring to challenge the viability of what was then your latest fascination.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 4:27am:

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun?

within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium

perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived

mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol?

the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split

will occur...more info to come..research yes good

namaste

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301768842/15

So how does the "2 Suns Prophecy" with it's "the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns"fit into your current "Flat Earth" fascination where a miniature sun sitting only 4,000 miles away circles above the disk of the flat Earth?

In both cases you insist upon your view being the only correct view.

How do you propose to resolve this conundrum of your own making?

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #110 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:13am

0ktema wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

it_is_the_light you posted the following "2 Suns Prophecy" back in 2011 and then went on to put people down (in your own special holier than thou way) for daring to challenge the viability of what was then your latest fascination.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 4:27am:

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun?

within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium

perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived

mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol?

the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split

will occur...more info to come..research yes good

namaste

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301768842/15

So how does the "2 Suns Prophecy" with it's "the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns"fit into your current "Flat Earth" fascination where a miniature sun sitting only 4,000 miles away circles above the disk of the flat Earth?

In both cases you insist upon your view being the only correct view.

How do you propose to resolve this conundrum of your own making?

many blessings oktema

the question was asked .. " has anyone heard " ... this is not prophesy it is a question ..

you have failed .

you seek to create an illusion to distract from your inadequacy and now ..

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #111 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:32am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:13am:

many blessings oktema

the question was asked .. " has anyone heard " ... this is not prophesy it is a question ..

you have failed .

you seek to create an illusion to distract from your inadequacy and now ..

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

namaste

You have no answers only questions.

You have failed.

Therefore you are either a dill or a shill.

Either way you are a wast of time.

May you receive all that you deserve.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Flat Earth Reply #113 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:18am many blessings as facts and logic continue to bring more awareness this is the case without anyones expressed or otherwise approval or permission so be at peace namaste
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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #114 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:34am

0ktema wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:32am:

Either way you are a wast of time.

Trolls don't post what they believe. Like everything else this troll posts, he posts it for his personal entertainment.

He gets off on the reaction. Sadly, it's probably all that he has to get off on nowadays.

Nobody is actually so dumb to believe any of this.

This particular specimen can be classified as a "narcissistic troll". (See video)

They are the least harmful of all trolls and are amusing to a point. If he had lived in the Middle Ages, he might have been a Court Jester.

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #115 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

many blessings yet still ,

there is no answer forthcoming from these trolls that choose inanity over facts

facts of which they can not refute or refuse to observe

they choose stupidity and ridicule yet it is they themself that becomes the jester and so be it

and so , lets have some answers to these questions you cannot google ..

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #116 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 9:06pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:13am:

0ktema wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

it_is_the_light you posted the following "2 Suns Prophecy" back in 2011 and then went on to put people down (in your own special holier than thou way) for daring to challenge the viability of what was then your latest fascination.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 4:27am:

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun?

within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium

perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived

mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol?

the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split

will occur...more info to come..research yes good

namaste

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301768842/15

So how does the "2 Suns Prophecy" with it's "the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns"fit into your current "Flat Earth" fascination where a miniature sun sitting only 4,000 miles away circles above the disk of the flat Earth?

In both cases you insist upon your view being the only correct view.

How do you propose to resolve this conundrum of your own making?

many blessings oktema

the question was asked .. " has anyone heard " ... this is not prophesy it is a question ..

you have failed .

you seek to create an illusion to distract from your inadequacy and now ..

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

namaste

1. Obvbiously master light, you can not visualise in 3d the moon spinning as it goes around the Earth. I suggest you grab a glass as the moon, a bottle of Sherry as the Earth, move the glass around the bottle keeping one face to it, mark the glass if it makes it easier. Does the glass rotate? Repeat many times for verification of results, and drink a glass of Sherry each rotation.

2. If the moon had no speed it would be pulled to the Earth, fortunately for us it also has speed and is moving further away.

3. Yes I know it was a pointless exercise pointing this out to you.

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #117 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:12am

many blessings yet still

no answers have been submitted ..

1. how can the moon show no other face unto earth ? only one side of your moon is visible for you espouse the moon is a globe .

2. how can your moon be in an synchronous rotation around a globe you call earth and effect the water so much , it creates tides ...332,500,000 cubic miles of water (mi3) and yet not be drawn to earth in your natural gravity theory construct you propose to espouse - the moon of and in due course should be getting attracted to earth in the natural gravity model ....

answer these 2 simple questions then more shall be forthcoming

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Reply #118 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:15am

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2. If the moon had no speed it would be pulled to the Earth, fortunately for us it also has speed and is moving further away.

many blessings setanta

you continue in your theme of non factuality

you say the moon is getting further away ?

how absurd .. pls post your factual information to back up this fiction of yours ..

post it not and ye are yet still forgiven

so be at peace

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #119 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 3:42pm

School kids all over the world have been sending iPhones and HD cameras into the upper atmosphere to a height of 80.000 to 100,000 feet. (way higher than the sun in your model)

At that altitude, the curvature of the Earth is obvious.

How do you suppose that a GPS works?

Have you ever seen the International Space Shuttle pass over the Earth? If you look at it through binoculars, you can make out its shape. I have seen it many times. It has an angular size a bit larger than the crater Tycho on the moon.

Do you want to know when it will pass over your location? I'll tell you when to look if you like.

http://www.space.com/images/i/000/048/738/original/Station_Moon_transit.jpg?inte...

This is not worth wasting time on, but I can see your point. Your point is that most ordinary people take a lot for granted and find it difficult to back up what they believe to be true.

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