No, I did not ask how it came to be biased. I asked how it came to be free of Muhammed's errors. Bias can lead in all sorts of directions. You claim it lead to a record absent of imperfection. How?

Being biased does not mean they know what should be excluded on account of it being an error. I accept that they had a desire and motivation to exclude Muhammed's errors. But that does not explain how they decided what was an error, or why you think they were successful. If Muhammed himself erred, how is it that these lesser men did not fail?

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You have some kind of faith that the available records of Muhammed's actions do not record any errors on Muhammed's part. You have this faith, despite believing that Muhammed made errors. Your faith seems to be based on bias, of all things. Something doesn't make sense. Bias leads to more errors. It would lead to the reinforcing of what lesser men than Muhammed that was right. If Muhammed himself made mistakes, this cannot possibly lead to a record containing only his good deeds.

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I am not suggesting the errors are hidden in some obscure detail Gandalf. It is a question of principle. Do you think in the 1400 year history of Islam, no Muslim scholar ever stopped to ask himself, if Muhammed made errors, which of his actions were errors, and which of those errors ended up as part of the historical record? It seems to me that such a question would rise to prominence in any attempt to base a legal doctrine from Muhammed's teachings and efforts to interpret his actions. Have Muslims simply accepted that Muhammed made mistakes and never thought about the implications of this, in between breaks in chopping people's heads off?

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It is illogical. I am aware that Muslims have invented some kind of 'science' of scripture interpretation. I would expect this to be the very first question to be answered in developing any system of interpretation.

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I have no idea what I should read. Am I supposed to start with all of it?

Do you care whether the actions of Muhammed that you are aware of include any errors?

Since muslims consider the hadiths not scripture, just writings they give them no credence to the quran or their belief anyway. To real muslims they are just an interesting read and certainly nothing take on board as it is not in the quran. Since the quran is supposed to be allahs word with an infallible prophet the whole religion/cult falls apart both historically and scientifically.

Gandalf beliefs poofters are ok, so he negates himself as a true believer according to the quran anyway. I don't really know why people hold him as an authority because he is not, a cursory google shows anyone that.

Clearly the whole thing is a bleedin joke its wearing very thin, even the old apologists here don't even bother that much anymore.

The whole Islam BS is best ignored all we are doing is feeding the garbage. No muslim here will listen to anyone else and no non muslim here will listen to a muslim and posts on islam are a waste of time by anyone, because its all bloody made up, and that's an historical fact. Why even talk like someone is expounding it to you because they are not. They are just wasting your time.

You said that you are not aware of any of his errors. Do you care whether this is correct? On what basis, other than faith, do you know this to be true?

You also said that you are not aware of any of his errors, now apparently through a combined process of historical filtering and selective ignorance of the Islamic texts. Do you care whether this is correct? On what basis, other than faith, do you know this to be true?

I am not talking about whether Muhammed erred Gandalf. I have not been for a long time. I am talking about your awareness, via the historical record, of what those errors are.

You said that you are not aware of any of his errors, apparently through a combined process of historical filtering and selective ignorance of the Islamic texts. Do you care whether this is correct? On what basis, other than faith, do you know this to be true? I am not asking whether you are correct about Muhammed making errors, but whether you are correct that the actions you are aware of exclude any such errors. Do you think it matters?