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Reply #15 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 2:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 10:37am:

Weren't the poms having a heat wave recently with mid 30's temperatures ?

And India was definitely having one of the worst heatwaves with 50 degrees temperatures and 1000 people dying !!!

If it was a mini ice age then you would expect all temperatures across the globe to be dropping with none of these heatwaves !!

This so called mini ice age and heatwaves coexisting are just extreme weather events as postulated by the global warming science !!

adelaide is having its coldest winter in a long time and this weekend expected to go well below zero. record cold.

but that doesnt count right? because it is just 'weather' while the heatwaves are difference?

btw do your maths. 1000 indians dying of heat is the same ratio as one dying from heat in adelaide - which happens every 45 degree day.

This is trivial in the bigger picture. USA experienced abnormal cold weather recently but average temperatures still rose despite the cold snaps.

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Reply #16 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:10pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

No doubt whatsoever - it's farken cold down here and that's before the massive snowfalls predicted for the Alps this weekend..... snow down to 500m - we'll see it to north and south if that happens....

Now THAT's an Ice Age.....

If you can post a time-series graph of snowfalls in these aussie alps then that would be great!

Quantitative argument is great!

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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #17 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:12pm Technically we are still in the last Ice Age due to the presence of ice at the Poles.
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Reply #18 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 10:37am:

Weren't the poms having a heat wave recently with mid 30's temperatures ?

And India was definitely having one of the worst heatwaves with 50 degrees temperatures and 1000 people dying !!!

If it was a mini ice age then you would expect all temperatures across the globe to be dropping with none of these heatwaves !!

This so called mini ice age and heatwaves coexisting are just extreme weather events as postulated by the global warming science !!

adelaide is having its coldest winter in a long time and this weekend expected to go well below zero. record cold.

but that doesnt count right? because it is just 'weather' while the heatwaves are difference?

btw do your maths. 1000 indians dying of heat is the same ratio as one dying from heat in adelaide - which happens every 45 degree day.

Yes, but sir nail is simply saying it's hardly an ice age!

Science doesn't prove: it disproves!

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #19 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:16pm Raven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: Technically we are still in the last Ice Age due to the presence of ice at the Poles. Nomenclature: thanx!
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #20 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:00pm Raven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: Technically we are still in the last Ice Age due to the presence of ice at the Poles. The Holocene? Warming occurred naturally......no help from ape descendants.....? How is this so...?
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Reply #21 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:14pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 10:37am:

Weren't the poms having a heat wave recently with mid 30's temperatures ?

And India was definitely having one of the worst heatwaves with 50 degrees temperatures and 1000 people dying !!!

If it was a mini ice age then you would expect all temperatures across the globe to be dropping with none of these heatwaves !!

This so called mini ice age and heatwaves coexisting are just extreme weather events as postulated by the global warming science !!

adelaide is having its coldest winter in a long time and this weekend expected to go well below zero. record cold.

but that doesnt count right? because it is just 'weather' while the heatwaves are difference?

btw do your maths. 1000 indians dying of heat is the same ratio as one dying from heat in adelaide - which happens every 45 degree day.

This is trivial in the bigger picture. USA experienced abnormal cold weather recently but average temperatures still rose despite the cold snaps.

but NOT to record figures. it it isnt a record it isnt unprecedented and if it isnt unprecedented then you cannot claim it is any indication of change.

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Re: Little Ice Age imminent?
Reply #22 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

Raven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:12pm:

Technically we are still in the last Ice Age due to the presence of ice at the Poles.

The Holocene?

Warming occurred naturally......no help from ape descendants.....? How is this so...?

Milankovitch cycles

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/documents/421974/1295957/Info+sheet+%236.pdf/be5d8b4e-5...

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Reply #23 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:26pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

so let's wait and see the hysterics come in and claim how ludicrous it is. after all, we cant have COOLING and humans in the same biosphere, right?

Yes sunspot activity apparently has no effect on climate according to the Alarmists? It's the hand of man.... Roll Eyes

Whoever said that sunspot activity apparently has no effect on climate ?

Please don't start telling lies - it is bad enough thatLongweekend continually does it.

BTW Longweekend. Still waiting for an answer.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434949445/34#34

You told us that "even UK MET and NASA accept the 17year pause" (in global warming)."

Please show us some evidence of this please.

Please don't run away again with your pathetic cry of"I already have". We both know you haven't - you are simply a liar.

If you are not a liar-show us now. Show us where the UK MET and NASA accept a "17 year pause" in global warming.

NASAs website says this:
Global temperature rise
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880.5 Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years.6 Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.7

and this:
Warming oceans
The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.8

and this:
Shrinking ice sheets
The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

and this:
Glacial retreat
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

No mention of a "17 year pause" in global warming. You are a liar.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #24 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:36pm Swagman wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:00pm: Raven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: Technically we are still in the last Ice Age due to the presence of ice at the Poles. The Holocene? Warming occurred naturally......no help from ape descendants.....? How is this so...? Rates of change! Thanx for playing!!
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Reply #25 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 10:37am:

Weren't the poms having a heat wave recently with mid 30's temperatures ?

And India was definitely having one of the worst heatwaves with 50 degrees temperatures and 1000 people dying !!!

If it was a mini ice age then you would expect all temperatures across the globe to be dropping with none of these heatwaves !!

This so called mini ice age and heatwaves coexisting are just extreme weather events as postulated by the global warming science !!

adelaide is having its coldest winter in a long time and this weekend expected to go well below zero. record cold.

but that doesnt count right? because it is just 'weather' while the heatwaves are difference?

btw do your maths. 1000 indians dying of heat is the same ratio as one dying from heat in adelaide - which happens every 45 degree day.

This is trivial in the bigger picture. USA experienced abnormal cold weather recently but average temperatures still rose despite the cold snaps.

but NOT to record figures

. it it isnt a record it isnt unprecedented and if it isnt unprecedented then you cannot claim it is any indication of change.

You are forgetting RATES OF CHANGE!

Not to good on your facts and figures are you ?

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Re: Little Ice Age imminent?
Reply #26 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:41pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:26pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

so let's wait and see the hysterics come in and claim how ludicrous it is. after all, we cant have COOLING and humans in the same biosphere, right?

Yes sunspot activity apparently has no effect on climate according to the Alarmists? It's the hand of man.... Roll Eyes

Whoever said that sunspot activity apparently has no effect on climate ?

Please don't start telling lies - it is bad enough thatLongweekend continually does it.

BTW Longweekend. Still waiting for an answer.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434949445/34#34

You told us that "even UK MET and NASA accept the 17year pause" (in global warming)."

Please show us some evidence of this please.

Please don't run away again with your pathetic cry of"I already have". We both know you haven't - you are simply a liar.

If you are not a liar-show us now. Show us where the UK MET and NASA accept a "17 year pause" in global warming.

NASAs website says this:
Global temperature rise
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880.5 Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years.6 Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.7

and this:
Warming oceans
The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.8

and this:
Shrinking ice sheets
The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

and this:
Glacial retreat
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

No mention of a "17 year pause" in global warming. You are a liar.

Swaggy loves a good lie to FIRST put son on the backfoot and THEN let the alcoholic dribbling take over...

Yeh, because Lib voters have class and are a cut above Cheesy

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #27 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:45pm Did you crack the keypad code at the asylum again copper brain?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #28 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 6:15pm innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 5:45pm: Did you crack the keypad code at the asylum again copper brain? he is truly a psycho. Almost nobody reads his stupidity and even fewer respond. I basically skip over everything he says figuring it to be delusional, BS or both.
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Little Ice Age imminent? Reply #29 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 6:54pm Yes quite bizarre indeed, most definitely some sort of dope fiend.
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