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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #30 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:48am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:07am:

And it doesn't help that this government keeps slashing the social welfare sector.

oh really? care to identify a single 'cut' nevermind a slash?

simplistic - two or three freezes and changes in goal posts for receiving a benefit could create a slash....

Just discussing elsewhere the current startling revelation that with seriously moved - and even removed - goal posts - a significant portion of DSP applicants are no longer eligible.

Told you many times - all changes are just a stroke of the pen away - we could do away with politician rorts immediately, chop out unwarranted tax deductions, get a fair return of tax from the rich... all with a focus on the right moves and a single stroke of the pen..... Dead Farken Easy!!

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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #32 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:03am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

hawil wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 4:05pm:

stunspore wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 1:08pm:

No sarcasm intended. It is good to see long not going with the line that "homelessness is a lifestyle choice".

so in your narrow little world NO ONE chooses to live on the streets? how wrong you are. And that is part of the reason govts around the world have failed to eliminate homelessness. Some actually do choose to live this way.

Exactly what % of homeless people do you think CHOOSE to be so?

LW will always find a way to put the blame on the victim.
What the governments should do, is built refuges of last resort, like the hostels, I and many other migrants lived in in the 50,s and 60,s, nothing flash, but at least not on the street.
I wonder if LW is one of those landlords, having housing empty.
If one does choses to live on the street, and accommodation is provided by the government, then he/she has no grounds to complain, and LW should not use them as an excuse.

think what you wil. you will anyhow. Just explain why people live on the streets for many years with no attempt whatsoever to live anywhere else. you wont of course.

Of course I won't, because I,am not all-knowing like you, and cannot understand why someone want to sleep in the freezing cold, if he/she has a chance of a warm bed.

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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #34 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:41am

Kat wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

The only fear the right have for the homeless is that they might be expected
to actually pony-up a few tax-dollars to help fix the problem.

And, they should.

The answers are obvious (the most important ones, at least) - build more public
and community housing projects. And raise social-security payments for sole par-
ents and the unemployed by $100 a week, effective immediately.

It gives them a chance to afford at least somewhere basic while the homes are
being built.

And, as a bonus, it creates jobs for the life of the program.

Almost all homeless people I've known have been homeless either because no-
where was available, or their paltry and parsimonious 'benefit' wouldn't cover
rent.

Kat won't be happy until we end up like the Greeks.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet Reply #35 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:45am Quote: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet .......but the climate is warming? There should be no fear?
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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #36 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

Kat wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

The only fear the right have for the homeless is that they might be expected
to actually pony-up a few tax-dollars to help fix the problem.

And, they should.

The answers are obvious (the most important ones, at least) - build more public
and community housing projects. And raise social-security payments for sole par-
ents and the unemployed by $100 a week, effective immediately.

It gives them a chance to afford at least somewhere basic while the homes are
being built.

And, as a bonus, it creates jobs for the life of the program.

Almost all homeless people I've known have been homeless either because no-
where was available, or their paltry and parsimonious 'benefit' wouldn't cover
rent.

Kat won't be happy until we end up like the Greeks.

Dropkick.

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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #37 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:07am:

And it doesn't help that this government keeps slashing the social welfare sector.

oh really? care to identify a single 'cut' nevermind a slash?

Yes, Longy, the impending multi-billion dollar cuts to the states who fund homeless services.

It may not happen overnight, but it will happen.

And thank heavens for that.

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Re: Fears For Homeless As Temperatures Plummet
Reply #38 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:02pm

Kat wrote on Jul 14^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

.... and raise social-security payments for sole parents

NO WAY!

I'm sick of the 'Sole Parents' industry.

It's an insult to all those genuine 'Sole Parents' who were rendered spouseless during WWII, Vietnam and the Middle Eastern wars.

I'm sick of hearing about these 'Sole Parent' women who made absolutely no effort to discover the character and the personality of the men they married - before then divorcing them only MONTHS later as their very young children are testimony to.

The notorious 'Single Mothers' mob should be punished - NOT rewarded for their idiotic irresponsibility.

Their bludging Benefits should be reduced to help pay for an increase in the Unemployment benefits.

'Single Mothers' - Jesus Christ! Bitches on heat who let the first person wearing trousers screw the arse off them.

If they want to supplement their government benefits for having dropped unwanted brats like sows on Farmer Brown's farm - then they should prostitute themselves through the Classified and at brothels like 'A Touch of Class'.

I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this 'Sole Parents' bullshit any more!

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