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Reply #30 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 4:40pm:
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all the more reason for the Challenge as originally proposed.  people write about a topic they absolutely oppose.  It is easy to write FOR something you believe.  The real skill is in doing the opposite.  Now when someone agrees to challeng me on that then fine. Until then, it doesn't matter.

and I did write the OP in a few minutes. I did say I was a published author right?


I now take what you say with less than a grain of salt.  Your topic and your Thread awaits you in Relationships.  How about you prove you are not all piss and wind for a change?

I do not believe you are a published anything and I certainly do  not believe you wrote the OP.



poor diddums.  cant cope with the fact that I actually write well?  And when I get a serious and willing participant in The Challenge  then I wil do it in the open and in the general forum and not run by an illiterate dimwit as yourself.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #31 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:35pm
 
Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
There NEVER WAS a 'carbon tax', you fools.

NOR did Gillard 'lie' about it.



well delusion has a name and it is Angry Kat.  time to kill people who vote Liberal again hey, Kat?
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #32 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:36pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:55pm:
I wouldn't bother replying to Kat... everyone knows that he's the forums Political Retard...  Roll Eyes



he is the forum's ANGRY retard.

Bicycle Boy should be his name
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #33 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:47pm
 
I watched the writing challenge with some interest.  Seemed  to me that those who were dissing the writing as not belonging to the poster presented no evidence and morover failed to respond to the challenge laid out by the one that was affronted. 

Major fails. 

Then aussie wanted to get involved and move it to a forum over which he had control.  Shocked

And I noticed that though the challenge was to write a piece that was contrary to the writers natural philosophy I can see much mischief making in future quotes being made and attributed. 

This forum is all levels of dodgy. 

Maybe it should be reduced to its essence, those that dissed the original post put up...or not, and that it occur in the thread where it originally happened.  Keeps it all neat that way. 
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Reply #34 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:58pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 4:40pm:
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all the more reason for the Challenge as originally proposed.  people write about a topic they absolutely oppose.  It is easy to write FOR something you believe.  The real skill is in doing the opposite.  Now when someone agrees to challeng me on that then fine. Until then, it doesn't matter.

and I did write the OP in a few minutes. I did say I was a published author right?


I now take what you say with less than a grain of salt.  Your topic and your Thread awaits you in Relationships.  How about you prove you are not all piss and wind for a change?

I do not believe you are a published anything and I certainly do  not believe you wrote the OP.



poor diddums.  cant cope with the fact that I actually write well?  And when I get a serious and willing participant in The Challenge  then I wil do it in the open and in the general forum and not run by an illiterate dimwit as yourself.


Let’s go, Longy. You’re on.
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Reply #35 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:00pm
 
crocodile wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 1:44pm:
There is nothing really special about a tax on Carbon. It is perfectly saleable as long as it does not increase the overall tax burden. That equates to making it revenue neutral by the complete elimination of other taxes with the revenue generated.

There is a good case to be had for eliminating corporate tax and grossly inefficient taxes like stamp duties. Taxing carbon is relatively efficient and difficult to avoid. Stamp duties just act as a restraint to people doing business with each other.

However, your observation "Bill Shorten has impressed no one with his political nous" is the obvious hurdle.





on my local news today.. we were told our electricity has come down by $500 pa thanks to the removal of the carbon tax....

I am hoping that is so true.. because we are having a very cold winter..

if it means putting back $500 on electricity I cant say as he will be popular....but then hes used to that isnt he??..

and labor are stuck with him.. boo hoo...  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #36 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:47pm:
I watched the writing challenge with some interest.  Seemed  to me that those who were dissing the writing as not belonging to the poster presented no evidence and morover failed to respond to the challenge laid out by the one that was affronted. 

Major fails. 


The proof is and always was self evident. Melielongtime's usual writing/posting standard is crap, yet suddenly, he produces something which meets average levels of 'English.'  We now have convincing proof, given he was set a topic which he naturally would  not support (something vital to his challenge)...he was given plenty of time to prepare his essay....at the stated time, his Thread was opened....and it remains empty, thus confirming what I suspected.  He is a flake.

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Then aussie wanted to get involved and move it to a forum over which he had control.  Shocked


Odd you would see it that way.  All I did was get the challenge (initiated by melielongtime) past an impasse of melielongtime's creation, set the topics as he wanted, and provided the Threads.  I also was able (because I can control to some extent trashing of Threads) to ensure the participants had a fair go.  Melielongtime can still post his essay on incest, yet, of no surprise to me, he has not.  He is a proven flake.

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And I noticed that though the challenge was to write a piece that was contrary to the writers natural philosophy I can see much mischief making in future quotes being made and attributed. 


If there was mischief, that was the result of the terms of challenge set out by melielongtime.

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This forum is all levels of dodgy. 

Maybe it should be reduced to its essence, those that dissed the original post put up...or not, and that it occur in the thread where it originally happened.  Keeps it all neat that way. 


'Neat' is exactly how it was set up.  It is still very 'neat' and there is a gaping vacuum where melielongtime's essay is supposed to be.  He is a proven flake.
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Re: "There will be no Carbon Tax": Shorten
Reply #37 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm
 
Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
There NEVER WAS a 'carbon tax', you fools.

NOR did Gillard 'lie' about it.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #38 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:03pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
There NEVER WAS a 'carbon tax', you fools.

NOR did Gillard 'lie' about it.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Don't handle the truth very well, do you?
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Reply #39 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:05pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:55pm:
I wouldn't bother replying to Kat... everyone knows that he's the forums Political Retard...  Roll Eyes



he is the forum's ANGRY retard.

Bicycle Boy should be his name



Make yourself useful, troll - go and emulate a camp-fire.
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Reply #40 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
The proof is and always was self evident. Melielongtime's usual writing/posting standard is crap, yet suddenly, he produces something which meets average levels of 'English.'  We now have convincing proof, given he was set a topic which he naturally would  not support (something vital to his challenge)...he was given plenty of time to prepare his essay....at the stated time, his Thread was opened....and it remains empty, thus confirming what I suspected.  He is a flake.




and we all agree that 'ozzie' aka mod is an expert on the English language..

and boy is 'ozzie' suspects you of anything.. then you had better believe it.. he claims he has POWERS..and he will get very indignant if you stand up for yourself...

how anyone proves its their own work I will never know..

however the smart arses on here..

who know without a doubt longy didnt write said article..

then they must by that same token.. have some idea who did???...


so  who do you think he plagiarised from MOD.?   being an expert on writing skills and all.. Grin Grin
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Reply #41 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:47pm:
I watched the writing challenge with some interest.  Seemed  to me that those who were dissing the writing as not belonging to the poster presented no evidence and morover failed to respond to the challenge laid out by the one that was affronted. 

Major fails. 


The proof is and always was self evident. Melielongtime's usual writing/posting standard is crap, yet suddenly, he produces something which meets average levels of 'English.'  We now have convincing proof, given he was set a topic which he naturally would  not support (something vital to his challenge)...he was given plenty of time to prepare his essay....at the stated time, his Thread was opened....and it remains empty, thus confirming what I suspected.  He is a flake.

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Then aussie wanted to get involved and move it to a forum over which he had control.  Shocked


Odd you would see it that way.  All I did was get the challenge (initiated by melielongtime) past an impasse of melielongtime's creation, set the topics as he wanted, and provided the Threads.  I also was able (because I can control to some extent trashing of Threads) to ensure the participants had a fair go.  Melielongtime can still post his essay on incest, yet, of no surprise to me, he has not.  He is a proven flake.

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And I noticed that though the challenge was to write a piece that was contrary to the writers natural philosophy I can see much mischief making in future quotes being made and attributed. 


If there was mischief, that was the result of the terms of challenge set out by melielongtime.

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This forum is all levels of dodgy. 

Maybe it should be reduced to its essence, those that dissed the original post put up...or not, and that it occur in the thread where it originally happened.  Keeps it all neat that way. 


'Neat' is exactly how it was set up.  It is still very 'neat' and there is a gaping vacuum where melielongtime's essay is supposed to be.  He is a proven flake.



Meh, would have been neater without your attempts at meddling and asserting control.  Why did you even want to get involved and farm it off to your little forum and become an adjudicator?

Power thing?  Penis issues? 

What reason?  What benefit did you see in getting yourself involved and modding?   
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Reply #42 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
There NEVER WAS a 'carbon tax', you fools.

NOR did Gillard 'lie' about it.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Don't handle the truth very well, do you?




Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

so what was it then???... if it didnt flow through to my electricity bill and a few other things along the way..???

and what did she change.. a few months after her deal with the greens...???????

btw that was in the KILLING SEASON.. I am sure you have a signed copy of that havent you for your collection

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


lets hear you version of the TRUTH
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Reply #43 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:14pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 4:40pm:
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all the more reason for the Challenge as originally proposed.  people write about a topic they absolutely oppose.  It is easy to write FOR something you believe.  The real skill is in doing the opposite.  Now when someone agrees to challeng me on that then fine. Until then, it doesn't matter.

and I did write the OP in a few minutes. I did say I was a published author right?


I now take what you say with less than a grain of salt.  Your topic and your Thread awaits you in Relationships.  How about you prove you are not all piss and wind for a change?

I do not believe you are a published anything and I certainly do  not believe you wrote the OP.



poor diddums.  cant cope with the fact that I actually write well?  And when I get a serious and willing participant in The Challenge  then I wil do it in the open and in the general forum and not run by an illiterate dimwit as yourself.


I'd be happy to see you write well.  Problem is.....I haven't, and I doubt I ever will.  You are a proven sham.  You had a willing participant (two in fact) and you had your topic, your had your stage (kept clean by me) and it matters not to the outcome of your own challenge that I set it up.  That you reckon I am an 'illiterate dimwit' is totally irrelevant.

I (and perhaps others) always suspected it, now it is proven.  You are a blow hard flake.
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Reply #44 - Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:17pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Meh, would have been neater without your attempts at meddling and asserting control.  Why did you even want to get involved and farm it off to your little forum and become an adjudicator?

Power thing?  Penis issues? 

What reason?  What benefit did you see in getting yourself involved and modding?   





HA!  secret wars you are new to me...but behold someone sees this person as I see him... exactly.. a control freak..

I mean did you see the demands he made if someone wanted to write an essay.,.. or even if someone wanted to contribute... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes it went through him first....a bit like the ABC and Q&A 

he has tried it with myself..only trouble is I fall about laughing....I am sure a few others do as well..
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