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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #165 - Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:04pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 9:59am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:49am:

Soren wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 8:23pm:

Whatever denials you wish to spew forth, there is precedent for same sex formalised unions in history.

Marriage has not been an exclusively heteroexul institution.

Nonsense.

There has been no society in the history of mankind that has ever recognised same sex relationships as equivalent to heterosexual marriage.

Not once, not a little bit, not in any way.

It is simply not true.

There has NEVER been any social recognition of same sex relationships as being equivalent to heterosexual marriage. Never, Nowhere. Ever.

This is very categorical - so you should have no problem with disproving it if right was on your side. But it isn't and so you will not be able to disprove it.

No need to do always absolutely never ever, old chap, Mother has categorically proven you wrong. Even Nero had a jolly gay hubby.

There’s hope for you yet, dear boy.

Nero forcibly castrated a young boy. If you think that has any relevance to a marriage debate then I pity you.

So why did you raise this as relevant in a gay marriage debate, Maria?

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Reply #166 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 6:45pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:09pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 9:59am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:49am:

Soren wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 8:23pm:

Whatever denials you wish to spew forth, there is precedent for same sex formalised unions in history.

Marriage has not been an exclusively heteroexul institution.

Nonsense.

There has been no society in the history of mankind that has ever recognised same sex relationships as equivalent to heterosexual marriage.

Not once, not a little bit, not in any way.

It is simply not true.

There has NEVER been any social recognition of same sex relationships as being equivalent to heterosexual marriage. Never, Nowhere. Ever.

This is very categorical - so you should have no problem with disproving it if right was on your side. But it isn't and so you will not be able to disprove it.

No need to do always absolutely never ever, old chap, Mother has categorically proven you wrong. Even Nero had a jolly gay hubby.

There’s hope for you yet, dear boy.

Nero forcibly castrated a young boy. If you think that has any relevance to a marriage debate then I pity you.

So why did you raise this as relevant in a gay marriage debate, Maria?

I didn't. Mothra did.

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #167 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm

mothra wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:23am:

And i think the definition of precedence escapes you. Formalised same sex unions have occurred throughout history. You're just going to have to accept that.

But not same sex marriage. You're just going to have to accept that.

And the formalised same sex unions were never recognised as anything but mad or queer, always short lived, never enjoying social recognition of any kind. That deviance has occurred throughout history is no proof at all that gay marriage has an established precedence.

You're just going to have to accept that.

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #168 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am: I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay. Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139151 Gender:	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #169 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:51pm Soren wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: You're just going to have to accept that. Gay marriage is legal in many countries, and it will be legal in Australia soon. You're just going to have to accept that.
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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #170 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:27pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 6:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:09pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 9:59am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 12:49am:

Soren wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 8:23pm:

Whatever denials you wish to spew forth, there is precedent for same sex formalised unions in history.

Marriage has not been an exclusively heteroexul institution.

Nonsense.

There has been no society in the history of mankind that has ever recognised same sex relationships as equivalent to heterosexual marriage.

Not once, not a little bit, not in any way.

It is simply not true.

There has NEVER been any social recognition of same sex relationships as being equivalent to heterosexual marriage. Never, Nowhere. Ever.

This is very categorical - so you should have no problem with disproving it if right was on your side. But it isn't and so you will not be able to disprove it.

No need to do always absolutely never ever, old chap, Mother has categorically proven you wrong. Even Nero had a jolly gay hubby.

There’s hope for you yet, dear boy.

Nero forcibly castrated a young boy. If you think that has any relevance to a marriage debate then I pity you.

So why did you raise this as relevant in a gay marriage debate, Maria?

I didn't. Mothra did.

Where's that, Maria?

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #171 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:30pm

Soren wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

And the formalised same sex unions were never recognised as anything but mad or queer, always short lived, never enjoying social recognition of any kind. That deviance has occurred throughout history is no proof at all that gay marriage has an established precedence.

You're just going to have to accept that.

That's strange. You're now saying history is full of formalised same sex unions?

What sort of slippery, evasive, arse-covering, yeah-but-no-but fappery is this?

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #172 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #173 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:43pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

Yes, but Maria swore on a stack of Bibles that she is not Longy.

Why would she possibly lie about this?

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #174 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 12:00am

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

Yes, but Maria swore on a stack of Bibles that she is not Longy.

Why would she possibly lie about this?

Well - of course a lady would never lie... I think the Bibles were actually just covers without the content... yet somehow the scent of Longie lingers longer than the lingerie of a lady....

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #175 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

Yes, but Maria swore on a stack of Bibles that she is not Longy.

Why would she possibly lie about this?

Troll.

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #176 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 6:17pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

Yes, but Maria swore on a stack of Bibles that she is not Longy.

Why would she possibly lie about this?

Troll.

Don't get angry, Maria.

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #177 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 11:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:35am:

I am wondering if you understand the difference between transgender and gay.

Is transgender like when longweekend becomes maria? Cheesy

Yes - transgenders are brickie's labourers with hairy chests who want to have tits and stuff and are confused about their gender, or are catwalk models with fine hips and knockers who think they'd prefer to have a false dick attached...

I maintain that if they use hormones to try to be more the opposite - why not use hormones to be more what they already are?

Gays are just people confused about sex, sometimes afraid of the opposite sex, and often are locked into the 'easy' approach of going gay....

Yes, but Maria swore on a stack of Bibles that she is not Longy.

Why would she possibly lie about this?

Troll.

Don't get angry, Maria.

We’ll pray for you.

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Reply #178 - Aug 24^th, 2015 at 1:03am

Down on the set of A Few Good Girlie Men:-

"Colonel Abbott..... if Gay Marriage was an acceptable norm... and you said that it was.."

"I said it could be accepted as..."

"No, NO! You said - and I can have the clerk repeat back for you what you said.."

"I have no need to have the clerk repeat what I said!"

"Colonel Abbott - if Gay Marriage was an acceptable norm... and you said acceptable norms are always followed................... why did Gay Marriage need to be defended?"

"I said..."

"You said Gay Marriage was an acceptable norm.. and that norms were always followed..... why did Gay Marriage need to be defended, Colonel?"

"I've had enough of this... I'm going home to my base.... I don't know what kind of outfit you run here...."

"The witness will resume his seat - I'd like the answer to that question. And the witness can call me Sir or Colonel - I KNOW I've earned it."

"Let's leave that for later, Colonel. I'd like to read out a list of a Transgender's locker... two sets of high heels, one cocktail dress, four pairs of silk panties... five bras...."

"Is there a question in here somewhere, Counsellor?"

"I'm just wondering why.. if a Transgender was leaving his sex for the rest of his life... he hadn't even packed..... Colonel? No - don't bother... here is a list of the calls Transgender made before leaving forever..... you made three calls before coming up here for one day... yet he made NONE.. zero.. not one call.. yet he was leaving for the rest of his life. Colonel Abbott, can you explain that?"

"I can explain that. The answer is I have simply no idea. Maybe a Transgender doesn't have any friends - maybe they are late packers. You snotty nosed little bastard... You think you can make a story out of locker rooms and telephone lists? The Gay Marriage bill is on trial here for its life.. let's hope its counsellor hasn't staked it all on telephone bills and laundry lists!"

"I want the truth!"

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH."

"Did you order the Code Red on the Gay Marriage bill?"

"You're damned right I did - and I'd do it again!"

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #179 - Aug 24^th, 2015 at 9:56am

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:30pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

And the formalised same sex unions were never recognised as anything but mad or queer, always short lived, never enjoying social recognition of any kind. That deviance has occurred throughout history is no proof at all that gay marriage has an established precedence.

You're just going to have to accept that.

That's strange. You're now saying history is full of formalised same sex unions?

What sort of slippery, evasive, arse-covering, yeah-but-no-but fappery is this?

Thank you for quoting selectively, PB.

Observe the full post including the one it responded to:

Soren wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 10:23am:

And i think the definition of precedence escapes you. Formalised same sex unions have occurred throughout history. You're just going to have to accept that.

But not same sex marriage. You're just going to have to accept that.

And the formalised same sex unions were never recognised as anything but mad or queer, always short lived, never enjoying social recognition of any kind. That deviance has occurred throughout history is no proof at all that gay marriage has an established precedence.

You're just going to have to accept that.

Mebbe you should ask Mutter (I don't have the strength) to show the truth of her claim that 'formalised same sex unions occurred throughout history'.
She will tell you about some mad emperor or a court jester like you who may have married some friar in a secret orgy in the French ALps in 1768.

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