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Reply #270 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

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Not picking on you exactly since getting a direct answer to a direct question is rarer than a unicorn, but it would be nice if you would answer it just the same.

Here is a question. Where did you post the link to the public record where Toyota said it is shutting down because of Union activity?

Left that thread, has she?

Maybe Maria has little desire nor any apparent ability to debate facts with any maturity.

Fair enough. We can’t all be that good.

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Reply #271 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:36pm

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Quick note to Mothra. Take a look at Boswells career. He was a gay apologist and died of AIDS. His entire career was for pro-gay advocacy particularly in church.

You don't think that casts some doubt over his assertion especially since so many of his colleague refute his claims? One such funny claim is that the Catholic church was actually PRO-GAY up until the 12th century.

Not in the slightest. He was a Harvard educated Professor. Worked at Yale. A highly respected historian.

Does it matter that he was gay? Is there a crime in dedicating a field of study to something you are passionate about?

Really Maria, trying to discredit him as a dirty old poof who died of AIDS is a terrible debating strategy.

Are you that desperate?

Like it or not, a career of homosexual apologism does make questioning his material quite valid. Do you remember the 'research' that declared that gay parents were better at raising children? Unsurprisingly, the repudiated research was done by a long-time gay activist who was... a gay parent. Funny that.

Yes, it matters. It is not conclusive, but it is a fair question to ask. With the large bulk of his academic work related to homosexuality, is it any surprise that he 'suddenly finds' gay marriage in the dim dark past that no one else has ever found? And I defy you to find anywhere the use of the virtually unknown term 'human kind' in the 1600s. And the Catholic church was pro-gay... ever???

'When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.' or translated into gay activism-speak 'when your sole interest is homosexual rights then every issue, every event is a homosexual one'

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #272 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice. But nice try.
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Reply #274 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

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Reply #275 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:51pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

My prejudice? Well, that's precious.

Damning observations? What? That he was gay? Are you serious?

I must think what about parenthood? You're hysterical.

Seriously Maria. You just need to accept that you're wrong and stick a fork in it.

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #276 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:51pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:36pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Quick note to Mothra. Take a look at Boswells career. He was a gay apologist and died of AIDS. His entire career was for pro-gay advocacy particularly in church.

You don't think that casts some doubt over his assertion especially since so many of his colleague refute his claims? One such funny claim is that the Catholic church was actually PRO-GAY up until the 12th century.

Not in the slightest. He was a Harvard educated Professor. Worked at Yale. A highly respected historian.

Does it matter that he was gay? Is there a crime in dedicating a field of study to something you are passionate about?

Really Maria, trying to discredit him as a dirty old poof who died of AIDS is a terrible debating strategy.

Are you that desperate?

Like it or not, a career of homosexual apologism does make questioning his material quite valid. Do you remember the 'research' that declared that gay parents were better at raising children? Unsurprisingly, the repudiated research was done by a long-time gay activist who was... a gay parent. Funny that.

Yes, it matters. It is not conclusive, but it is a fair question to ask. With the large bulk of his academic work related to homosexuality, is it any surprise that he 'suddenly finds' gay marriage in the dim dark past that no one else has ever found? And I defy you to find anywhere the use of the virtually unknown term 'human kind' in the 1600s. And the Catholic church was pro-gay... ever???

'When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.' or translated into gay activism-speak 'when your sole interest is homosexual rights then every issue, every event is a homosexual one'

Good job, Maria. Now you’ll need to go through all Mother’s other sources - and their references - and do the same with them. Then you’ll need to back this up with your own sources.

Once you’re done doing this, you may provide the slightest doubt in anyone who reads this thread that there is no historical precedence for gay marriage and you were right all along.

Then you can sit back and continue to support gay marriage.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #277 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:54pm Precedence is important to Maria.
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Reply #278 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:56pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

Now you’re getting somewhere, dear. Please provide quotes and reference the authors who tore apart this research that no one here has cited.

That could work.

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Reply #279 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:03pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

Now you’re getting somewhere, dear. Please provide quotes and reference the authors who tore apart this research that no one here has cited.

That could work.

That would help Maria establish a precedent. Gay academics are to be immediately dismissed because a study published by a gay author was rubbish.

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Reply #280 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 8:24pm

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

Now you’re getting somewhere, dear. Please provide quotes and reference the authors who tore apart this research that no one here has cited.

That could work.

That would help Maria establish a precedent. Gay academics are to be immediately dismissed because a study published by a gay author was rubbish.

You may well be right, Mother, I wouldn’t know. Maria hasn’t referenced whatever it is she’s talking about.

There there, Maria, it could be worse. At least you haven’t been the target of bigoted hate crime like poor old Sore End. Those deviant meanies do like to rough him up so.

You’re just fighting yourself, Maria.

One question if I may: do you still support gay marriage, or have you changed your mind on that as well?

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85298 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #281 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:38pm I wish longie were here - he'd have it sorted out in no time.....
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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #282 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:46am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

I wish longie were here Cry

- he'd have it sorted out in no time..... Wink

Oh, I do feel Longy is watching over Maria from above. He’s quite a gentleman that way.

This was the thread that did poor Longy in. He couldn’t show his face here after this.

If you’re reading this, Longy, we miss you. Brush up on your writing and come back soon.

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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #283 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:06am

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

I think i'm more swayed by the fact that he was a Professor at Yale than i am by your prejudice.

But nice try.

I don't think you are ever swayed by any fact, but merely regurgitate whatever 'fact' you uncover that suits your prejudice. And this is why you won't try and refute my damning observations regarding Boswell, probably because you don't understand the question. You probably believe gay couples are better parents as well. After all, it was a university professor who did the research. (ignore the fact that it was torn apart in the academic and public spheres, much like Boswell)

Now you’re getting somewhere, dear. Please provide quotes and reference the authors who tore apart this research that no one here has cited.

That could work.

That would help Maria establish a precedent. Gay academics are to be immediately dismissed because a study published by a gay author was rubbish.

One reason gay rights have taken as long as they have to come to be is because of people like you with 'arguments' like that.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96507	Re: In defence of Gay Marriage Reply #284 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:12am Good point, Maria. Two thousand years of torturing sodomites, and it’s all Mother’s fault.
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