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Reply #30 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:56pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
The only arguments  in the piece that speak specifically to gay marriage are quoted for somebody else.

There are no arguments put forward by the author.

This is just a synopsis of other people's work .. not, as Phem says, a passionate essay on gay marriage. It lacks any soul or feeling or any cohesive argument at all for that matter.

While it is well written, it does not suitably address the subject matter.

My vote is still for Karnal.


of course it is.  and the 'quotes' from someone else were quotes from... ME. I am the 'professor'.  and anyhow, I could write "I have a dream.." and you would support anyone else.



Karnal's essay fulfilled the brief Longy. Yours didn't.



then join in the fun. Mothra. Show us your skill at crafting words. Or better still, join in the next challenge: speech writing.



I don't know if i have enough testosterone for this challenge Longy .. but set me a question then.

I will take a day or 2 to whack it out but i can hold my own.
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Reply #31 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:09pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:45pm:
Phemanderac wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
I agree it is wonderfully made up to be sure, but as I said, no passion and in 1200 words no less. That alone for any honest person would knock a few of the "how good am I" points off....

After all, you were not good enough to present a passionate argument supporting the topic of your choice. You presented a made up story, mostly about historical campaigners for rights, then some more made up stuff about "social evolution" and, with a few hundred words to go you wove in the concept that Gay Marriage was inevitable...

I wouldn't get too carried away with yourself there mate. You are the only one telling you how good you are presently.

Further, only about five days after the first challenge was taken up and completed too...

By all means though, put up a heap of OP's about stuff you disagree with, hell, I may grow to enjoy reading your new opinions.


I wonder how many people recognise the playbook that is a variation of the 'long con'.  Karnal, so convinced of his own superiority and trumped only by Aussie who seems to think he is/was God's gift to the legal profession got dragged along for days in a setup.  I always knew I could school them, but I also knew they would not write after me so we played a little game and like children, they fell in step and wrote first.

If I can get anyone to compete we can do it again. Perhaps write a speech for a fictional speaker and see how that fares. Or I can just listen to the pathetic complaints that apparently I didnt write it.

But maybe I will write some articles espousing causes I dont truly beleive in.  It could be fun!


You can’t do that, Longy. You already rejected the two topics you were given. You weren’t up to it.

You’re that good.
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Reply #32 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:07pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
Karnal's response to discovering he's not as clever as he thinks he is...



If you really believed that, you’d have taken a couple of days and written your own article.You’re completely aware we all know it’s not yours. You’re not even pretending.

I agree with them now. You really are the biggest fake here.

You’re done.


and it took you an hour to come up with that? 

You were outclassed, but to be fair, it was unfair to suck you into it.

But at least we finally found something you are passionate about: LOSING. so harness that passion and go to the next challenge: speech writing.

PS claiming I didnt write it is about as pitiful a response as you could come up with. It is unbecoming of you. I expect little from Aussie, but I did expect a modicum of decency from you and instead got a tantrum.  Not a good look Karnal.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #33 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:56pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
The only arguments  in the piece that speak specifically to gay marriage are quoted for somebody else.

There are no arguments put forward by the author.

This is just a synopsis of other people's work .. not, as Phem says, a passionate essay on gay marriage. It lacks any soul or feeling or any cohesive argument at all for that matter.

While it is well written, it does not suitably address the subject matter.

My vote is still for Karnal.


of course it is.  and the 'quotes' from someone else were quotes from... ME. I am the 'professor'.  and anyhow, I could write "I have a dream.." and you would support anyone else.



Karnal's essay fulfilled the brief Longy. Yours didn't.



then join in the fun. Mothra. Show us your skill at crafting words. Or better still, join in the next challenge: speech writing.



I don't know if i have enough testosterone for this challenge Longy .. but set me a question then.

I will take a day or 2 to whack it out but i can hold my own.


Great!  I appreciate the effort.  And it isnt a testosterone-fuelled endeavour.  You could write a speech praising Julia Gillard or the RSPCA for all I care.  It is about the effort and the challenge to see what you can do when challenged.  Let's face it, no one is hiring any of us as speech writers so let's show them what they are missing!
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: In defence of Gay Marriage
Reply #34 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm
 
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?
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Reply #35 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:20pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?


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On the 26th of January you are all invited to celebrate little white penal day...

"They're not rules as such, more like guidelines" Pirates of the Caribbean..
 
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Reply #36 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:21pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:11pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:07pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
Karnal's response to discovering he's not as clever as he thinks he is...



If you really believed that, you’d have taken a couple of days and written your own article.You’re completely aware we all know it’s not yours. You’re not even pretending.

I agree with them now. You really are the biggest fake here.

You’re done.


and it took you an hour to come up with that? 

You were outclassed, but to be fair, it was unfair to suck you into it.

But at least we finally found something you are passionate about: LOSING. so harness that passion and go to the next challenge: speech writing.

PS claiming I didnt write it is about as pitiful a response as you could come up with. It is unbecoming of you. I expect little from Aussie, but I did expect a modicum of decency from you and instead got a tantrum.  Not a good look Karnal.


You’ve been crushed. There’s no way out of this one, Longy. You spent a week struggling out of your own challenge, and your final response is a cute Rosa Parks piece from Newsweek - or three pieces as Phemanderac pointed out.

You only had 45 minutes, after all. You’re that good.

You’re the dumbest phoney here.
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Reply #37 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:25pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?


I have to say that I did not regard this as a win thing.  I had a topic, I presented my point of view, (within the 600 word limit) and I defy anyone to knock it down cogently.

In the other hand, all we have from (yeas it has to be done/said/posted....) The Flake's is 'Alice in Wonderland' fantasy, and even that is the work of someone else.
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Reply #38 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:27pm
 
I think it's a cop out ... there's a lot of unrelated motherhood statements there before he even mentions gay marriage ....

trying to reach your word quota without actually defending the subject perchance?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #39 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?


Oh I think Karnal's and Aussie's childish reactions were very definitely all the proof I needed.  It was pitiful.  Im not after votes anyhow. There are very few here that would vote on anything other than the author. The challenge is as much to me as anyone else. I've been a bit off my writing game of late and a challenge like this does wonders.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #40 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:32pm
 
anyone else notice the similarities with this article Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.smh.com.au/world/chief-justices-stance-on-gay-marriage-sets-state-and...

where in 1955 Rosa Parks boarded a bus, refused to give up her seat to a white passenger and sparked the Civil Rights movement.

Up the hill, a block from the Baptist church where the young pastor Martin Luther King made his name, the Alabama Supreme Court towers over neighbouring buildings.


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Reply #41 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:29pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?


Oh I think Karnal's and Aussie's childish reactions were very definitely all the proof I needed.  It was pitiful.  Im not after votes anyhow. There are very few here that would vote on anything other than the author. The challenge is as much to me as anyone else. I've been a bit off my writing game of late and a challenge like this does wonders.



you're pathetic longlooser .... you put together a collection of other writers comments, and want to pretend you wrote every word?

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you're just lucky that as far as I was concerned you had zero credibility and are nothing but a liar and a fake, otherwise after this attempt,  you would have lot whatever credibility you had

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Reply #42 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 9:22pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:32pm:
anyone else notice the similarities with this article Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.smh.com.au/world/chief-justices-stance-on-gay-marriage-sets-state-and...

where in 1955 Rosa Parks boarded a bus, refused to give up her seat to a white passenger and sparked the Civil Rights movement.

Up the hill, a block from the Baptist church where the young pastor Martin Luther King made his name, the Alabama Supreme Court towers over neighbouring buildings.





not at all.  and you arent comparing and article. you are comparing a SENTENCE FRAGMENT.  is your understandng of English literature and grammar so bad you come up with this drivel?
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Reply #43 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 9:28pm
 
I find what Professor Storling said in the article quiet interesting in-fact.

However, I think Professor Storling is about 50% right.  In order for a society to change, there must be an underlying environment in which the changes can occur or to take place in order to facilitate a common agreement.   

This is almost the exact point that I tried to get across in the other thread about "the left in support of murderous moderates".  In which I wrote, that in order for things like woman and gay rights to improve, unfortunately, it must be built on some sort of political and economic stability. 

In nature, there is no such thing as moral.  The strong, the cunning or the cruel survive in whichever way.  The reason why there were inequality in the past, was because of competition of resources.   After the period of industrializtion and rapid expansion of higher tech economy, most people no longer had to work on the land for most of their lives.  There are more types of industries and work which require education, which also bought with them higher productivity and hence wealth.   All of sudden, knowledge and learning became a necessity rather than reserved for the previlidged few.  And this formed the basis of modern day democracy, and ultimately to equalization of rights.   

Professor Storling is right in that if this had not occurred, then no matter what, changes would not occur in a society.  However, I disagree with him in that, changes just dont occur automatically.  Because, intrinsically, we all have the selfish genes, and those who have usually want to keep it that way.  This is especially true when it comes to power, and wealth.   In order for change to take place, few brave men and women must step forward to serve as a catalyst for change.

My wish in the future, is that we can move from a limited non-renewable fossil / carbon based economy, into a near endless renewable form of economy.  When, the technologies are so advanced that single battery held in the hand of a child would contain more energy than the total amount of energy we as a race ever produced.  By then, hopefully, we would create a sort of artifician selection environment in which we no longer require the selfish gene.
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Reply #44 - Jul 16th, 2015 at 9:51pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:29pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
You are the only one saying you have won Longy.

What does that tell you?


Oh I think Karnal's and Aussie's childish reactions were very definitely all the proof I needed.  It was pitiful.  Im not after votes anyhow. There are very few here that would vote on anything other than the author. The challenge is as much to me as anyone else. I've been a bit off my writing game of late and a challenge like this does wonders.


Me too, Longy. I’ve been a bit off my reading game. You see, I keep reading these posts about published writers and PhDs and I think, why not? What sort of sad old fool would krap on about something like that? No one cares what you do here.

But now I know. Not only would you pretend to write dumb Amerikan articles about Rosa Parks, but you’d swear on the most holy of file photos of Bibles to keep the story going.

And we all loved the bit about lines in the sand and having to many scruples to discuss gay incest or the death of God. You’re that good.

I assumed anyone who issues a silly challenge on a board like this could at least whack 600 words together as Aussie did in about an hour. But no, you squirmed for two weeks like someone who can’t even write their own name.  And I stupidly assumed you could.

I won’t be making that mistake again. No one will. You can’t even cut and paste a decent argument. You’re off your writing? I was off my reading.

Thanks for the lesson.
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