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Reply #165 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 8:49pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

Stratos wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

How many lies about Nazis would you have to stumble across before you became a dedicated apologist for Nazism?

I posted a photo of one. There are quite a few photos of people with Nazi tattoos floating around from the rallies too.

So why are you so against people being members of a Socialist political party (that ceased to exist 70 years ago)???

One doesn't have to be a member of the National Socialist Party of Germany to be referred to as a "Nazi", Gizmo. Roll Eyes

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Reply #166 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 8:54pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

]Anglo/Celtic Australia I grew up with. My culture. Like how the Chinese have theirs. Like how aborigines have theirs.

Anglo or Celtic? Which one? Both are very different and both were imported from the UK, where neither is native... You have no idea how silly your comments sound, do you? Roll Eyes

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #167 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 8:55pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

]Anglo/Celtic Australia I grew up with. My culture. Like how the Chinese have theirs. Like how aborigines have theirs.

Anglo or Celtic? Which one? Both are very different and both were imported from the UK, where neither is native... You have no idea how silly your comments sound, do you? Roll Eyes

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #168 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 9:03pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Getting a race and knowingly mixing it up is a form of genocide.

The UN Defines Genocide as being:
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...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2

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Can you please tell us how having a minority group "mixed up" with the majority group, fits that definition? Roll Eyes

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #169 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 7:46am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 8:55pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

]Anglo/Celtic Australia I grew up with. My culture. Like how the Chinese have theirs. Like how aborigines have theirs.

Anglo or Celtic? Which one? Both are very different and both were imported from the UK, where neither is native... You have no idea how silly your comments sound, do you? Roll Eyes

What would a treacherous muslim lover like you know about anglo/celtic aussies and their culture? You have your tongue firmly planted in ethnic ass.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #170 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 7:49am Anglo/Celtic/Australians against multiculturalism. I hope I'm not the only one to enjoy this irony.
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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #171 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:09am

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:42pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

Stratos wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:23pm:

Reply #23, my post, on page 2 of this thread.

edit: it is from the Age website.

That's his opinion. I agree with his points actually. Many aussies do. I still doubt most people know what the 88 means.

You agree with that crap? Really? Stop white genocide?

So was the government policy in the 1800's of racially mixing aboriginal people attempted genocide??? I've read that argument on here loads of times and nobody cared to respond.

That was INTENDED to dilute Aboriginal blood.

If white people get it on with people from other cultures, it's consenting and perfectly fine.

Anyway Double, it's hysterical to think white people in are any danger of dying out.

So multiculturalism isn't meant to dilute white blood then??? What's the difference?

Of course it isn't.

Calm down.

So a population of mostly British people in Australia getting millions of peoples from around the world brought into their society isn't going to dilute their blood then??? Just like what happened to the aborigines. No difference, yet one is attempted genocide and the other isn't. I'm confused.

Oh, there’s a teeny-weeny difference, Homo.

British Australians are not having their children removed and adopted by darkies. British people are not having their wages confiscated, or prevented from travelling, or being banned from pubs, swimming pools and local public buildings.

A bit of a quibble, I know.

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #172 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:12am

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:24pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

Double, you've been arguing that white people built this country and that the flag represents those that did. You want their advancement.

Yes?

My question to you is being white enough? What about Scandinavian people who had no part in building this country? In Eastern Europeans? Do you want their advancement too simply because they are white?

I keep telling you it's fine to be proud of being British or Irish or whatever group you claim heredity to that "built this country" but claiming pride in simply being white is another matter entirely.

Can you see the difference?

There. Now you have 2 questions.

But British people are white. African's are African but can still be black.

Are you deliberately missing the point entirely?

Read it again Double.

When I mean white Australian I mean anglo/celtic people who have been here for generations. I'm not referring to blow ins of all skin colours. I want that heritage to prosper in Australia.

So you don't mean Scandinavians and Eastern Europeans? Mediterranean people? Germanic people?

bugger them. I'm an aussie who's family has been here since the 1790's. That's who my people are.

Now you’re offending the old boy. No one has the right to not be offended, you know.

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #174 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 10:12am

Just for giggles,
I support a multicultural Australia because we need other cultures to help us be more productive.

We need the Italians to cook pizza, We need the Koreans to get rid of our stray cats. We need aboriginals to find out stray thongs. We need Englishmen to whinge. We need Indians to run our 7/11's.
Mostly we need whites to fill and run our government and centerlink

I cant believe people are still going on about race in 2015, I thought we got over that in the 1990's.

Idiots come in all shapes and colors, you have to talk to them to detect them.
People who judge others based only on the color of their skin or their heritage are either badly educated or stupid(though both is common)

As soon as someone says: "I dont accept multiculturalism" i hear
"I have limited experience with people not called Davo. People not called Davo are scary. Im scared of scary things"

On top of that the ones who proclaim the supremacy of white blood are often the ones who claim all Moslems are evil.

They are unable to imagine another person living without such an egotistical doctrine, and self project their own ego onto others.

Thats why they are so scared of all the Moslems. Because they honestly believe the Moslems are as dumb and aggressive as they are.

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #175 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:37pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:05pm:

I can't wait for Karnal to become a born-again apologist for anti-Islam protesters. It's only a matter of time till he reads these lies about them.

FD must be kranky at me.

What have I done, FD?

So it's not a lie to accuse this crowd of racism, because they were practicing taqiyya by putting a tinted person up as their spokesperson?

Gee, that's a long-winded assertion, FD, but do you know? I tend to agree with it.

I think the Sri Lankan priest spoke well. I thought he had a good argument. And who better to make Reclaim Australia's argument than the tinted races themselves?

It's hardly taqiyya, just good strategy. But one look at those placards shows us all too well. That Sri Lankan's only there to do the knuckleheads' bidding. When they're finished with the Muselman, he'll be next. And after him, moi.

You should be okay. It might help to delete those 2007 posts though - just to be on the safe side.

And the Jew is using the black man as muscle against the white man.

How about this for an alternative interpretation - the current troubles with Islam are making these knuckleheads think about what really matters. They are deciding that it is not race, but western liberal values. And them choosing a tinted person as spokesman is proof of this.

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

How many lies about Nazis would you have to stumble across before you became a dedicated apologist for Nazism?

Now you're getting specific, FD. My answer? One. I'll rebut any krap I read about Nazis. You can test me if you want.

Now. How many times do I need to ask you a question to get an answer?

What about when white knuckelheads get accused of racism despite choosing a tinted person to speak on their behalf. That's different isn't it?

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:48pm:

[quote author=mothra link=1437265164/127#127 date=1437381972]You are deflecting. Answer the question.

I've has enough of you mothra. I don't like what I read. I thought I was racist. God damned.

You are.

I am not.

You don't like white advancement in Australia for some reason. You don't like white kids getting better. That's racist as far as I'm concerned. It's hypocritical also because you want the same thing for aborigines.

I don't want "white" advancement Double. I don't want white people put before any other kind of people. White people already hold the majority of power. There is no need for advancement.

To twist that into saying i don't want the best for white kids is preposterous.

All this fus so you don't have to answer a question. Really?

I'm not in power. A small group of white people have power. Most white peopledon't have power over hardly anything in their lives. There's plenty of room for white people to advance in Australia. Many white kids are on drugs. When you say white do you mean white establishment?

Those are problems that effect all demographics Double. There is no need to colour code them.

Now ... about answering my question?

What was your question?

It's not advance Australia tinted. It's advance Australia fair.

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #177 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:11am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:37pm:

How about this for an alternative interpretation - the current troubles with Islam are making these knuckleheads think about what really matters. They are deciding that it is not race, but western liberal values.

Ah - must be it fD. That would explain the 1488 and end non-white immigration placards.

You once managed to smear a peaceful protest against the Egyptian coup to overthrow the democratically elected government as a sinister rally for oppression. And that was without being able to identify a single expression of such support amongst all the peace and democracy placards. Imagine what a few actual neo-nazis in amongst this rally for "liberal democracy" could do for anyone interested in smearing a particular group. Which naturally isn't you FD.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #178 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:36am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:11am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:37pm:

How about this for an alternative interpretation - the current troubles with Islam are making these knuckleheads think about what really matters. They are deciding that it is not race, but western liberal values.

Ah - must be it fD. That would explain the 1488 and end non-white immigration placards.

You once managed to smear a peaceful protest against the Egyptian coup to overthrow the democratically elected government as a sinister rally for oppression. And that was without being able to identify a single expression of such support amongst all the peace and democracy placards. Imagine what a few actual neo-nazis in amongst this rally for "liberal democracy" could do for anyone interested in smearing a particular group. Which naturally isn't you FD.

I wonder what the 2007 FD would think about the 2015 FD's support for racism rallies. Abu must be proud, no?

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Reply #179 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:25am

To their credit, I think this reclaim mob are trying very hard to present themselves as legit. They made appeals before the rally for people not to be racist. But alas there were still the 'ban non-white immigration' placards and the skinheads with swastikas tatooed to their heads. Imagine what sort of ammunition a single beheading sign at an otherwise non-extremist muslim rally would give FD to mock and sneer for pages and pages. We know how he can twist a muslim rally that doesn't even have a single beheading sign - or any sort of extremist material. I guess thats why he's just avoiding the nazis altogether. Even he must know the hypocricy of him running with the "oh but most of them were non-extremist" line. It wouldn't be hard at all to use all his arguments against him: they let the nazis in, therefore they are tacitly approving of them, you can't actually see any placards saying they are specifically against racism... etc etc.

Yes, its very understandable that FD just wants to quietly ignore them entirely.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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