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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #45 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 1:52pm Herb, you go to the protest? Or cant you afford the train ticket to martin place?
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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #46 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:11pm The leftards didn't have the guts to turn up when the Muslims put on their "beheading" demonstration.
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #47 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:13pm double plus good wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:11pm: The leftards didn't have the guts to turn up when the Muslims put on their "beheading" demonstration. You cant behead anybody when there hiding their identity wearing a aussie flag as a burqa
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Reply #48 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:14pm

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:11pm:

The leftards didn't have the guts to turn up when the Muslims put on their "beheading" demonstration.

You cant behead anybody when there hiding their identity wearing a aussie flag as a burqa

You didn't answer the question.

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Reply #49 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:24pm

What I find interesting is how the Reclaim Australia mob invariably turn out such a small crowd whereas the anti-Proclaim Australia mob outnumber them at least 10 to 1. While I believe Proclaim Australia should be allowed to make as big a bunch of fools of themselves as they can, with their rather pitiful turnouts, I abhor the violence of the anti-Proclaim Australia mob. They would be ten times more effective if they turned up and turned their backs on the Proclaim Australia mob and remained silent IMHO. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #50 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

What I find interesting is how the Reclaim Australia mob invariably turn out such a small crowd whereas the anti-Proclaim Australia mob outnumber them at least 10 to 1. While I believe Proclaim Australia should be allowed to make as big a bunch of fools of themselves as they can, with their rather pitiful turnouts, I abhor the violence of the anti-Proclaim Australia mob. They would be ten times more effective if they turned up and turned their backs on the Proclaim Australia mob and remained silent IMHO. Roll Eyes

If you really did find it "interesting" one would assume you'd think more deeply about it.

I'd you went back 50 or 100 years, you'd have found that every suffragette, every black civil rights, or homosexual rights protester was similarly outnumbered. Does this mean they were "wrong"?

The numbers is a reflection of who holds the status quo, not of how "correct" an idea is.

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Reply #51 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:49pm

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

What I find interesting is how the Reclaim Australia mob invariably turn out such a small crowd whereas the anti-Proclaim Australia mob outnumber them at least 10 to 1. While I believe Proclaim Australia should be allowed to make as big a bunch of fools of themselves as they can, with their rather pitiful turnouts, I abhor the violence of the anti-Proclaim Australia mob. They would be ten times more effective if they turned up and turned their backs on the Proclaim Australia mob and remained silent IMHO. Roll Eyes

If you really did find it "interesting" one would assume you'd think more deeply about it.

I'd you went back 50 or 100 years, you'd have found that every suffragette, every black civil rights, or homosexual rights protester was similarly outnumbered. Does this mean they were "wrong"?

The numbers is a reflection of who holds the status quo, not of how "correct" an idea is.

Partially correct, Honky. The reality is that often the majority holds the status quo because they are the majority. In the case of the Reclaim Australia mob, all they have done is latch onto the latest issue because it suits their outlook on life - they hate Immigrants, they hate Multiculturalism, they hate women/gays/children/etc and now they've added that they hate Muslims. Their views though, are the tiny minority. That the anti-Reclaim mob can put 10 times the number onto the street at relatively short notice suggests what about the position of the Reclaim mob's views?

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #52 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

That the anti-Reclaim mob can put 10 times the number onto the street at relatively short notice suggests what about the position of the Reclaim mob's views?

That the anti-protest protestors represent powerful interests who fear losing power to a popular uprising, prompting them to try and crush it in its infancy, and/or that they are useful idiots with nothing else to do.

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Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu
Reply #53 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 3:54pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:14pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

One man letting loose with a home-made placard does NOT define a whole crowd of demonstrators.

nice attempt at goal-shifting Herb. Still at least you provided a straighter answer than poor Baron.

Now hold it right there, Bucko!

Does this sound like a rally based upon racial difference or a protest against an introduced cultural ethic that these people do not want to see take root in Australia?

Take your time. I know these sort of questions place you in a somewhat invidious position as a Mohammedan.

You are right Herb, I don't really think the majority of the reclaim mob are out and out racists, and there is a strong concern related to culture, as you say.

But there unquestionably *ARE* some out and out racists there. So forgive me if I will revel in some schadenfreude as the anti-Islam mob take a dose of their own medicine. Of course you lot would never dream of characterising an overwhelmingly peaceful muslim protest by the antics of a tiny minority of extremists now would you? Cheesy

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #54 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 4:48pm

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

That the anti-Reclaim mob can put 10 times the number onto the street at relatively short notice suggests what about the position of the Reclaim mob's views?

That the anti-protest protestors represent powerful interests who fear losing power to a popular uprising, prompting them to try and crush it in its infancy, and/or that they are useful idiots with nothing else to do.

If you believe that, Weslely, I have a nice, shiny bridge to sell you. Would you care to inspect it? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #55 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 4:52pm Double plus good and herbert at todays rally. Rallying against the muslims burqa but wearing a burqa.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #56 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 5:13pm wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Rallying against the muslims burqa but wearing a burqa. That is quite funny actually.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #57 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 5:16pm The Ned Kelly mask also has remarkable similarities to a Niqab.
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #58 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:33pm Stratos wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 5:16pm: The Ned Kelly mask also has remarkable similarities to a Niqab.
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: How is it 'racist' to protest against Islamic valu Reply #59 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:35pm Yadda at the rally holding the cross
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