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Reply #15 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 1:26pm
 
Stalin by a country mile.

He was hated by the ordinary citizens - and was also hated by those who served him. Even his closest associates hated him.

By contrast, Hitler was not only loved by the bulk of the ordinary citizenry, but was also worshipped by those most close him.

And make no mistake about Hitler and the Jews --- I worked for years with Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Croatians and others who hated 'the Jews' - and who had absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for them because of the extermination camps.

Vast swathes of the European and Russian people at the time of Hitler, hated the Jews. 

The Jews hated Hitler - but not so the Arabs, and many in the West who still 'despise' them.


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Reply #16 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 1:40pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
What was Napoleon's legacy?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars_casualties

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Total dead and missing
2,500,000 military personnel in Europe
1,000,000 civilians were killed in Europe and in rebellious French overseas colonies.
Total: 3,500,000 casualties

David Gates estimated that 5,000,000 died in the Napoleonic Wars. He does not specify if this number includes civilians or is just military.

Charles Esdaile says 5,000,000–7,000,000 died overall, including civilians. These numbers are subject to considerable variation. Erik Durschmied, in his book The Hinge Factor, gives a figure of 1.4 million French military deaths of all causes. Adam Zamoyski estimates that around 400,000 Russian soldiers died in the 1812 campaign alone—a figure backed up by other sources.[who?] Civilian casualties in the 1812 campaign were probably comparable. Alan Schom estimates some 3 million military deaths in the Napoleonic wars and this figure, once again, is supported elsewhere.[where?] Common estimates of more than 500,000 French dead in Russia in 1812 and 250,000–300,000 French dead in Iberia between 1808 and 1814 give a total of at least 750,000, and to this must be added hundreds of thousands of more French dead in other campaigns—probably around 150,000 to 200,000 French dead in the German campaign of 1813, for example. Thus, it is fair to say that the estimates above are highly conservative.

Civilian deaths are impossible to accurately estimate. Whilst military deaths are invariably put at between 2.5 million and 3.5 million, civilian death tolls vary from 750,000 to 3 million. Thus estimates of total dead, both military and civilian, can reasonably range from 3,250,000 to 6,500,000.


That's it? Nothing else?
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Reply #17 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:43pm
 
How can anyone be hated from history considering we stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Every single one of them.

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Reply #18 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:48pm
 
Karl Marx would be up there - hated by most citizens of the former FSU AND most of the western world for the last 100 years.  It was his influence that enabled the horrors or Mao, Stalin and pol pot - 3 previously mentioned contenders.  They are mere sidekicks to the big boss Marx.
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Reply #19 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:57pm
 
The peasants!
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Reply #20 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:58pm
 
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Karl Marx would be up there - hated by most citizens of the former FSU AND most of the western world for the last 100 years.  It was his influence that enabled the horrors or Mao, Stalin and pol pot - 3 previously mentioned contenders.  They are mere sidekicks to the big boss Marx.


Not true.

Marx never advocated for a Police State Tyranny as part of his Communist Manifesto.

It's just that the born-to-rule elitists - (hello Malcolm Turnbull) - always get in the way of a True communist state being developed as one giant national kumbayah commune. There's always been someone who comes along to reshape this political cake into a pyramid.
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Reply #21 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:04pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:58pm:
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Karl Marx would be up there - hated by most citizens of the former FSU AND most of the western world for the last 100 years.  It was his influence that enabled the horrors or Mao, Stalin and pol pot - 3 previously mentioned contenders.  They are mere sidekicks to the big boss Marx.


Not true.

Marx never advocated for a Police State Tyranny as part of his Communist Manifesto.

It's just that the born-to-rule elitists - (hello Malcolm Turnbull) - always get in the way of a True communist state being developed as one giant national kumbayah commune. There's always been someone who comes along to reshape this political cake into a pyramid.


Come on mate, the ten tenets have a common theme - the state having total power.  The police is the enforcement arm of that all-powerful state, so how could it be any different?
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Reply #22 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:11pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
How can anyone be hated from history considering we stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Every single one of them.




that is so gobsmackingly stupid that I was expecting to see SOB as the author.
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Reply #23 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:15pm
 
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:04pm:
Come on mate, the ten tenets have a common theme - the state having total power.  The police is the enforcement arm of that all-powerful state, so how could it be any different? 


Communism is based upon ... trust ... and that's where the whole edifice falls down.

You simply cannot trust people to forgo self-interest for the Common Good. Where there's a personal advantage to be had - people will take it.
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Reply #24 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:25pm
 
Considering that without Judas' betrayal there would have been no crucifixion, no Jesus waking up on the Monday and scooting off to heaven, Christians should be saying big thank yous to his memory...

In fact, it could be said that Judas was the major facilitator of Christianity.
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Reply #25 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:27pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:11pm:
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
How can anyone be hated from history considering we stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Every single one of them.




that is so gobsmackingly stupid that I was expecting to see SOB as the author.


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Reply #26 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:39pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:11pm:
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
How can anyone be hated from history considering we stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Every single one of them.




that is so gobsmackingly stupid that I was expecting to see SOB as the author.


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Reply #27 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:05pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:11pm:
____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
How can anyone be hated from history considering we stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Every single one of them.




that is so gobsmackingly stupid that I was expecting to see SOB as the author.


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Reply #28 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:17pm
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 3:25pm:
Considering that without Judas' betrayal there would have been no crucifixion, no Jesus waking up on the Monday and scooting off to heaven, Christians should be saying big thank yous to his memory...

In fact, it could be said that Judas was the major facilitator of Christianity.


it could be said that.
also the jews had a big hand in it.
As was foretold, and as what had to happen to Jesus to become the Christ.
He had to fulfill ALL the prophecies.

even the guards that mocked him as he perished, divided his clothes, the criminals that died beside him
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Reply #29 - Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:19pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 11:33am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 11:21am:
mohammad


The wrongest answer there could be. Sprintcyclist is just a hate propagator.

There are ~1.6 billion Muslims that love Mohammed compared to the handful of sorry hate propagators that hate him.

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1.6 billion
As of 2010, over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population are Muslims. By the percentage of the total population in a region considering themselves Muslim, 24.8% in Asia-Oceania do, 91.2% in the Middle East-North Africa, 29.6% in Sub-Saharan Africa, around 6.0% in Europe, and 0.6% in the Americas.


the thread was 'most hated', not 'most net hated'.
with the millions killed by muslims over the centuries moh would be far and away the most hated.

Noone would even be in the same league as moh.
the damage islam has caused.



the followers of moh have murdered 100's this month.

mod is by far the most hated
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